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 | rick [email] said at 5:52 PM 10-10-2003:
I have seen films like that but I do not think you would like any of them. |
 | linus [email] said at 5:59 PM 10-10-2003:
Are you talking about porn? If so, feel free to list in the gentlemen's club.
I just realized the kissing thing is not really a good comparison and makes me sound like an emo fag. |
 | brandon [email] said at 6:05 PM 10-10-2003:
tell me tell do you like long rides, and brown eyes, making out, and guys who don't quite fit innnnn.... |
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| linus [email] said at 6:34 PM 10-10-2003:
Only if they where scruffy sweaters and like unicorns. |
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| linus [email] said at 6:34 PM 10-10-2003:
WEAR! WEAR!!! WEAR!!!! WEAR!!!! (*$)(#*)$* WEAR!!!! |
 | milky [email] said at 6:07 PM 10-10-2003:
Emo fag? That's not what came to mind.
No, it just sounds like a dentene ice commercial, and that's not bad.
Like, cool, refreshing...like a winter breeze...and I watch too much TV. |
Camera TRick said at 6:26 PM 10-10-2003:
I mean films like "Dude, Where's My Car?," "Critters II," "Mac And Me," "Batman And Robin" and "Gone Fishin'." |
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| rick [email] said at 6:30 PM 10-10-2003:
No, actually the only films that do that are ones that have a very striking visual element like "The Thin Red Line" or "Natural Born Killers." |
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| linus [email] said at 6:32 PM 10-10-2003:
Critters II was so predictible. I really think of "Dude, Where's My Car?" as a prelude to "Dude, WHere's My Car, Again?" which I don't think I can fully prepare myself for. |
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| rick [email] said at 6:33 PM 10-10-2003:
"Dude, Where's My Car?" caused a bit of an existential crisis with me. |
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| linus [email] said at 6:53 PM 10-10-2003:
Bothered by the fact that you exist in the a universe where Stifler gets to continue making movies? |
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| rick [email] said at 6:56 PM 10-10-2003:
Bothered by the fact that some people go out and make lovely stuff that inspires others and/or helps them live and some people just go out and make crap and not just crap that was accidental but crap that was intentionally crap and not just intentional crap that was a lot of work but rather just intentional crap that was half-assed. And even more unfunny than Bob Saget. |
Michael said at 8:20 PM 10-10-2003:
I kinda liked it |
Rickonaissance said at 8:48 PM 10-10-2003:
Were you somehow inebriated? |
Michael said at 8:55 PM 10-10-2003:
well yeah, of course, but i still thought parts of it were strangely compelling. of course, i find stifler funny as hell, so there you go |
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| rick [email] said at 9:00 PM 10-10-2003:
"We are hot chicks""Have you seen the ( whatever that stupid contraption they were looking for)?" "Dude!""Sweet!" So many bad lines, so little time. Not to mention the plot. That film was not even a wart on the ass of "Bill & Ted's" |
Michael said at 9:10 PM 10-10-2003:
Hey, I ain't saying it was Citizen Kane or anything, but I thought it was better than Critters II or Batman and Robin. |
corRicktion said at 9:12 PM 10-10-2003:
"Batman And Robin": Possibly."Critters II": Nope. And I despised "Critters II." |
Randy [ url ]
said at 1:17 AM 10-12-2003:
There's something very pure and refreshing about bad movies that know they're bad, don't try to be anything but, and revel in their inanity. Dude Where's My Car? was just such a movie. It was just so unapologetically dumb... it's like your little retarded cousin that you just have to love. |
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| rick [email] said at 2:45 PM 10-12-2003:
Reveling in their inanity is "UHF." That is a funny film but "Dude, Where's My Car?" was just one bad joke after another. The plot was dumb, none of the characters were funny, and the film actually is rather slow.I know two people who went to see it stoned and could not get through it. |
zackzackzack said at 10:33 PM 10-12-2003:
i got UHF on DVD with commentary!!!! it's awesome |
Randy [ url ]
said at 11:26 AM 10-13-2003:
Yeah, so did I... but I haven't watched the commentary yet. Just watched the movie (since it had been so long) and the deleted scenes. Saving the commentary for a rainy day... |
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| rick [email] said at 3:22 PM 10-13-2003:
"UHF" is definitely a film that has stood the test of time. It opened the same summer as "Batman" and "Honey, I Shrunk The Kids." I know lads who still like the first "Batman" but "Honey, I Shrunk The Kids." If you choose that over "UHF" I will make it my life's work to see that you are sent to Guantanamo Bay. |
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| linus [email] said at 6:29 PM 10-10-2003:
I really need a better comparison. I'm tired. My brain hurts. &**($)(*#@$!! |
 | Bendependent [email] said at 6:30 PM 10-10-2003:
me and josh are going tonight with mary and jeff. |
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| linus [email] said at 6:32 PM 10-10-2003:
I really need a better comparison. I'm tired. My brain hurts. &**($)(*#@$!! |
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| linus [email] said at 6:33 PM 10-10-2003:
()#)(*#$*)(*)#*$!!!!! |
 | pokey [email] said at 6:50 PM 10-10-2003:
Imma go tonight, too, probably. I also found out I am going to see Return of the King on december 4th. I am so excited. |
 | courtney [email] said at 8:10 PM 10-10-2003:
I know the feeling you describe. I have experienced it with many Tarantino films in the past.
I expect it might happen again. Send inhalers. |
Randy [ url ]
said at 1:24 AM 10-12-2003:
By "many", you mean 3? |
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| courtney [email] said at 3:29 AM 10-12-2003:
You nitpick.
Besides, what do you define as the 3? Reservoir Dogs, True Romance and Pulp Fiction? There are more to consider. Not just Tarantino directed films, but writing, producing, and/or directing. |
 | zack [email] said at 6:09 AM 10-12-2003:
if you deny randy the right to nitpick, you deny him the right to breathe. We were talking about this earlier. His 3 official movies are RD, PF, and JB, but True Romance, Dusk Till dawn, and others(?) are also eligible for TARANTINO-NESS.i think Tarantino's writing is the biggest consideration. |
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| pokey [email] said at 1:19 PM 10-12-2003:
I really enjoy 4 rooms. |
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| courtney [email] said at 3:21 PM 10-12-2003:
oops, yeah, meant JB as opposed to True Romance.
But yeah, Zack gets the point.
Anything with Tarantino involved has so far been a winner. Even movies that he was involved in releasing (or re-releasing) like Chun King Express... or produced, like Killing Zoe. |
Randy [ url ]
said at 1:57 PM 10-12-2003:
Sorry, I was just in a smart-ass mood when I wrote that. Yeah, I don't count True Romance, since he only wrote it, and From Dusk Till Dawn I guess I should've counted, since it seemed to be equally collaborative. 4 Rooms I don't count since his part was so short and really not very good. |
 | josh [email] said at 1:54 AM 10-11-2003:
It was pretty mindless and boring. I liked it better than Cabin Fever. |
 | craig [email] said at 9:45 AM 10-13-2003:
I completely agree. This movie was predictable and forgettable. |
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| Bendependent [email] said at 4:51 AM 10-11-2003:
Kill Bill is god awful.
The soundtrack is pretty good though, especially the Nancy Sinatra "bang bang, my baby shot me down" song in the opening credits. I don't know why I've never heard that song before.
I really don't like Anime. Or extensive mindless violence with no plot to back it up. Or choreographed fighting with no gravity or physics.
This was about like watching Charlie's Angels 2 with tremelo and reverb. And a lot of close up shots like Tarantino likes to do so it will appear to have some sort of style.
Charlie's Angel's 2, I think, was actually funnier though cos it was at least totally ridiculous. And it had an ending.
This whole splitting up movies into sections trend is gonna get really annoying.
People really seem to like blood and guts and ninjas.
People sure do like ninjas.
There were people attacking each other with imaginary swords on the way out of the theater just like people leaving Star Wars.
People sure do seem to wish they could really hit each other with swords. Swords are so cool. They're like totally what ninjas use to kill people.
And ninjas are totally sweet.
Uma Thurman has really big fucking hands. That's really all I cared to look at after about 30 minutes of this movie.
Big big hands.
So if I have to say something nice instead of being quiet, I'll leave it at:
Ninjas, Big Hands, Nancy Sinatra. |
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| courtney [email] said at 12:47 PM 10-11-2003:
I heart ninjas.
And swords. Don't forget the swords. |
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| zack [email] said at 12:54 PM 10-13-2003:
I'd just like to point out that you're an idiot. You know why?
THERE ARE NO NINJAS IN THIS MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| milky [email] said at 2:05 PM 10-13-2003:
Yeah. I didn't know ninjas wore shirts and ties. |
 | sonny [email] said at 8:16 PM 10-13-2003:
Yes there are you just can't see them cause they are very talented SLEATHY ninjas |
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| zack [email] said at 8:28 PM 10-13-2003:
hahahaha i like that explanation. |
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| linus [email] said at 1:39 PM 10-13-2003:
I was more stunned by the size of her toes. They're like quad jointed. |
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| linus [email] said at 9:07 AM 10-11-2003:
Kill Bill clearly has a pretty thin story. Revenge. Revenge. Revenge. The Bride is an unrelenting force. Still, I didn't miss something more because I was so enthralled by the kung fun theatre comic book brought to life in front of me that I didn't care.
I think that what this has that lesser action flicks lack is that Tarentino has a love for his inspiration and a flair for bringing it out without making it seem like you've seen it 100 times before.
I love that his characters are larger than life. They are superhuman without physical or moral limits, yet despite that, still have the same base human desires. Hate. Lust. Greed. Shame. Things many action heroes lack. They live in a universe where a woman can survive a bullet to the head. Where a coma patient can kill two rapists and drive off within hours of awakening. I think some of the things like that help put all the unbelievable martial arts in perspective. I loved the pictures of mythic Suburbia and Tokyo (esp. in contrast to the reality represented in Lost in Translation).
In this world, you know that The Bride will not (at least not in this edition) be stopped, but where Tarentino succeeds (and where the masters that served as his inspiration succeeded) is that at least for a second (fleeting differently depending on how much your belief has been suspended) he makes us think they just might meet their end at any number of moments (even though we know Batman, Bond, & the Bride will still be here next week, month, year, etc.)
I'm not a big anime fan, but I liked the way it was used here. If you're going to have a flashback, why not do something different. And there's something about the way the horrifying acts depicted are represented, that I'm not sure would have been the same in live action.
The soundtrack was stellar. Nancy Sinatra did really set the scene well and every other place the music flows perfectly with the action.
Sure, the violence was completely absurd, but I think all the spurting and gore just spoke to the lengths that The Bride is willing to go and more importantly how will someone that driven change once she finds out the secret hidden from her.
I think a certain amount of my enjoyment of this was probably nostalgia. I saw Pulp Fiction somewhere around 200 times. Still, I can see how it wouldn't be some people's cup o' tea.
And I love The Three Amigos. So take my movie opinions based on that. |
 | mary [email] said at 1:39 PM 10-11-2003:
I like this movie. But I am a bit obsessed with the concept of revenge these days. And I am always happy to see women swing swords around and chop off people's limbs. |
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| rick [email] said at 1:41 PM 10-11-2003:
Dianne decided last night that women samurai were good role models for young girls. |
Woody said at 12:32 PM 10-14-2003:
C'mon, admit it. You only like to see them chop off men's limbs... |
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| pokey [email] said at 6:40 PM 10-11-2003:
Just saw it. I felt like the script was pretty weak, for Tarantino. As always, for me, Lucy steals the show, though Uma was fabulous, as well. The animation sequence surprised me, but lended to the whole comic book feel of the film, which is pretty much all the film has going for it. However, I am a comic enthusiest, so, as with other recent action films such as Charlie's Angels, Kill Bill entertains, which is really all I expect from films like these. If I was looking for intrigue, I would go see soemthing else. My only real gripe is the lack of wit which other Tarantino films have in abundance. If there were any attepts at it, I really didn't notice. The triteness of the dialogue paired with the visual nature of the film (I don't think I will ever tire of spurting, spraying blood) made it difficult to care about lines which weren't directly related to the narrative. The dialogue I enjoyed most was the conversation in the sushi shop, which, in a way, makes sense, since it was pointedly small talk, unlike the small talk that is every other line in the film. I feel like the dialogue could have been trimmed drastically, and the movie would have been stronger for it, afterall, actions, especially such stimulating action, speaks louder than words. The RZA did an amazing job, which I noted to myself as I wondered about whether or not the soundtrack is available, yet, for purchase. |
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| milky [email] said at 9:51 PM 10-11-2003:
The RZA did an amazing job, which I noted to myself as I wondered about whether or not the soundtrack is available, yet, for purchase.
Yeah, I'm curious about that as well. To get the RZA score complete of 'Ghost Dog,' one has to buy the Japanese import (on my to do list).
It was a blast, visually. After "Jackie Brown," I didn't expect much out of QT. I didn't have huge expectations, so I had a really good time.
Seeing a woman get revenge (knee blasts, heel slashes) proper, well, it's a beautiful thing. My fiance really dug the movie...I was worried she'd accuse me of dragging her to it, but I was surprised again.
Windmills with dual swords, chopping at the ankle...wow.
The triteness of dialogue? Reminded me of Clint Eastwood westerns, Leone. It worked. |
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| zack [email] said at 10:22 PM 10-11-2003:
the dialogue was also very much influenced by samurai films of yore, from the very first battle with vivica fox. |
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| zack [email] said at 10:23 PM 10-11-2003:
And Jackie Brown is a terribly underrated movie. QT sublimates a lot of his stylistic flourishes to focus on characters. |
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| milky [email] said at 12:15 AM 10-12-2003:
I liked it in the theaters when I saw it. I didn't LOVE it...but then again, I think I spent most of the movie mesmerized by Pam Grier. Kill Bill is cool. Different animal completely, took me by surpise. |
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| milky [email] said at 12:15 AM 10-12-2003:
I liked it in the theaters when I saw it. I didn't LOVE it...but then again, I think I spent most of the movie mesmerized by Pam Grier. Kill Bill is cool. Different animal completely, took me by surpise. |
Randy [ url ]
said at 1:30 AM 10-12-2003:
Yeah, I didn't think Jackie Brown was an amazing work of cinematic art, but I enjoyed it and really respected the fact that he was obviously trying somethiing different for himself, and succeeded.
Still haven't seen Kill Bill, but it looks fun. I can't believe people are judging the script. Did you really expect it to have a good script? |
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| zack [email] said at 2:06 AM 10-12-2003:
well, he ususally does?? |
Randy [ url ]
said at 1:51 PM 10-12-2003:
Yeah, but this doesn't look like a very script-driven movie. A martial arts/action revenge story... I mean, I expect it to be good for what it is, but I'm not expecting much story. |
zackcazakckaz said at 3:25 PM 10-12-2003:
yeah, QT is like Miike, in that he can take what on the surface might seem like a very shallow concept (hot assassin babe gets revenge on her former assassin pals) and make something substantive out of it by channeling his own unique style and storytelling styles into it.. |
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| pokey [email] said at 1:22 PM 10-12-2003:
Tarantino dialogue used to be up there with Kevin Smith dialogue, witty, and either funny, or important to the plot, sometimes both. |
Randy [ url ]
said at 1:54 PM 10-12-2003:
I always found Kevin Smith's dialogue to be rather contrived. Not that QT's isn't also, but his is contrived in such a way that's somewhat ridiculous and therefore amusing. |
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| zack [email] said at 3:28 PM 10-12-2003:
I have to agree there. I have definitely enjoyed parts of Kevin Smith movies, but it always seems like it's more in spite of his decisions. Plus, as a pure filmmaker, he's completely boring. His staging and camerawork are never any higher than workmanlike. |
Randy [ url ]
said at 6:30 PM 10-12-2003:
I think he keeps getting better though. I liked Dogma the most of all his films... But I do agree 100% with everything you just said. |
Michael said at 8:36 PM 10-12-2003:
Really? Dogma? The only part I liked in that movie was where Damon and Affleck shoot up the board room |
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| brandon [email] said at 10:20 AM 10-13-2003:
Dogma would have been so much better if the Metatron were actually Megatron and the RCChurch were hordeing energon instead of salvation, cross-over shenanigans galore. Plus, it would finally solve this nagging question about the ontology of the greatest good. The gg would therefore not exist as some rarified concept, no, the greatest good, the optimus primus would in fact be a mack truck. |
Randy [ url ]
said at 11:23 AM 10-13-2003:
Well, I didn't agree with what the movie had to say, necessarily, but I definitely thought it was the most entertaining of all of his movies. |
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| linus [email] said at 12:00 AM 10-12-2003:
The soundtrack is out, but I couldn't find it in the first couple stores I went to. I'm not sure what's on it exactly. |
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| milky [email] said at 12:13 AM 10-12-2003:
only one or two RZA tracks. I read the japanese tracklisting from the amazon japanese site. but again, i dunno if that's the american release. |
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| milky [email] said at 9:53 PM 10-11-2003:
Sorry, didn't mean, to comment on trite so much as sparse dialogue.
And I like throwback films. I don't have the time or money to see a million kung fu action films from back inna day or obscure stuff of the like. I've had the fun of seeing a few, but I got bills.
*shrugs* |
 | dianne [email] said at 6:49 PM 10-11-2003:
i said i'd rather my daughter want to grow up to be a samurai than think her only source of power is to give every man who looks at her a hard-on, a la britney. |
WRicked With Guilt said at 2:34 PM 10-12-2003:
Sorry!I guess I am only fit to work at the New York Times. |
 | reggie [email] said at 8:21 PM 10-11-2003:
I thought Kill Bill was pretty cool but the thing that sticks out in my mind was the scene (and I don't think this is much of a spoiler) where you hear the Bride's victims moaning in the background as she hunts down O-Ren. That's something that no other filmmaker would even think to include. I need to see this movie a couple more times before I can figure out exactly how I feel about it. I mean, I did enjoy it but I wasn't really blown away by it. I miss QT's dialogue like crazy. Speaking of sounds, I also liked when you hear all 88 motorcycles pull up outside the restaurant.
One question, I was lead to believe there was s'posed to be some kind of post-credit preview or something but after me and about half the audience sat through the credits we were greeted with...nothing. Anyone? |
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| linus [email] said at 11:59 PM 10-11-2003:
I think some of the critic previews had the last few minutes w/ sophie where Bill reveals the "big secret" after the credits. I think they prob. moved it before cause people don't have patience to wait through the credits. |
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| zack [email] said at 10:25 PM 10-11-2003:
KILL BILL was everything I wanted it to be. You can tell QT is feeling freed by the current asian New Wave movies as well as the more obvious oldschool samurai stuff. i'm really surprised that Josh didn't like it more. |
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| josh [email] said at 3:42 PM 10-12-2003:
I liked the action scenes. It was shot well. I think I may have liked it better if it hadn't been cut in two... Or if it wasn't old so out of order.
Personally, I would have rather gone to see Versus in the theater than KB. And I think Versus is a better movie. |
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| zack [email] said at 8:28 PM 10-13-2003:
i STILL haven't seen versus. |
zackazackaz said at 10:49 PM 10-20-2003:
I just ordered versus from Deepdiscount. Hopefully I'll see it soon. |
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| courtney [email] said at 9:30 PM 10-20-2003:
not to be unlike the eloquent responses in this post... but...
word.
I just saw it and enjoyed it. Maybe it's because I'm a big anime/samurai film/manga/comic geek.
I wish that part two was simultaneously released, or at least within a month or two instead of 4. |
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| josh [email] said at 3:40 PM 10-12-2003:
I thought this was better than most classic Kung Fu movies that I have seen, which I guess is ultimately what Tarantino is going for - a modern day 70s Kung Fu movie. But CT, HD was a MUCH better "modern Kung Fu" movie. |
Randy [ url ]
said at 6:32 PM 10-12-2003:
Well, Ang Lee's a much better filmmaker. |
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| craig [email] said at 9:49 AM 10-13-2003:
"My name is Buck and I like to fuck..." |
angie said at 3:07 PM 10-13-2003:
Dear Mister Tarantino-
You have used all the fake blood on earth after this one. There is no more fake blood to use. You took it all for your film.
Thank you,
the world." | |
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