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 | kara [email] said at 5:00 PM 06-15-2005:
PS, I'll punch a cow. |
art said at 5:04 PM 06-15-2005:
I know they taste awful but those protein bars really pack a wallop. egg whites too. and peanuts, beans |
 | jeremy [email] said at 5:09 PM 06-15-2005:
so.. what you're proposing is she should make a protein bar/peanut/bean omelette? |
 | ed [email] said at 5:10 PM 06-15-2005:
Not all protein bars taste awful. Take it from someone who lived on them for over a year.
Labrada's Lean Body Gold bars taste like freakin' candy bars. To the point where I had to resist the urge to chow on them all day long.
PS, Kara, if you find a cool health-food/nutrition store, they will sell them to you way cheaper if you buy them by the box, rather than a few bars at a time. I got such discounts at both the store closest to me before I moved out of the ghetto and the store that was closest to me after. And you're WAY better-looking than me, so you'd likely get even more of a discount. Heh. |
 | rick [email] said at 5:29 PM 06-15-2005:
Peanuts, like most nuts in general, are high in fat. Beans, although are rich in fiber, do not have protein that are retained well by the body. Moreover, beans have the sugars, raffinose and stachyose, which are hard for some people to digest which leads to gas. That being said, there is a product, Beano, which will stave off gas. |
art said at 7:32 PM 06-15-2005:
yeah, whatever. they taste good. and the fats are the 'good' fats to boot |
 | brianbibbly [email] said at 5:13 PM 06-15-2005:
Eat a lot of egg whites. Make egg white omlettes with ham or turkey or whatever. Eat boneless, skinless chicken breasts. Eat them in anything. Eat Almonds. Tuna. Lots of Tuna. Chicken Salad. Eat that shit. |
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| kara [email] said at 5:15 PM 06-15-2005:
thanks dude.
boneless skinless chicken breasts are too much for me to handle, it seems. |
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| brianbibbly [email] said at 5:19 PM 06-15-2005:
Eat them and make them your bitch. |
 | milky [email] said at 6:41 PM 06-15-2005:
And that's true, that's how you do it, how I did it...and lost the weight and put on a tad of muscle |
 | amy [email] said at 5:31 PM 06-15-2005:
just eat lots of raisin bran and bean soup. throw beans on salad.
recipe: tons of protein.
canned corn-drained
one avocado-sliced
any kind of olives you like, i prefer the green cocktails
olive juice
cilantro-finely chopped
tomatoes-sliced, or splurge for the cherry tomatoes
hard cheese-small cubes-mozzarella/cheddar/
1/2 can of black beans or chickpeas
toss it all together with a few tablespoons of the olive juice, salt, and pepper
omg it is SO good |
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| kara [email] said at 5:39 PM 06-15-2005:
thanks!! |
 | myriam [email] said at 5:52 PM 06-15-2005:
avocado is a good one. do you like devilled eggs, kara? i find them a tasty protein-filled snack |
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| kara [email] said at 5:58 PM 06-15-2005:
yet another good idea, because its something I can prepare and easily bring to work, where I do most of my eating. |
 | abby [email] said at 9:18 PM 06-15-2005:
yo that sounds delicious. kara when are you making this |
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| kara [email] said at 12:07 AM 06-16-2005:
I'm not. You are. |
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| abby [email] said at 2:14 PM 06-16-2005:
and i'll do it, too. get ready for some serious down-home macrobiotic healthfulness! |
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| kara [email] said at 5:13 PM 06-15-2005:
recipes? |
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| ed [email] said at 5:36 PM 06-15-2005:
Buy Labrada Lean Body Gold bar.
Open wrapper.
Serves 1. |
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| ed [email] said at 5:44 PM 06-15-2005:
Well, serves 1 whose stomach is suddenly the size of his thumb. If you've got a larger appetite, eat whatever the heck you want and use the bars as supplements.
Remember, though, the human body cannot absorb more than 20-25 grams of protein at any one sitting, so eating 2-3 bars at a time is nothing but a waste of money.
Or, so I've been told. Y'know, by a nutritionist who oversaw my progress before and after my gastric bypass. |
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| kara [email] said at 5:45 PM 06-15-2005:
Actually your advice is very applicable to me because I do indeed have a stomach the size of a thumb. |
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| amy [email] said at 5:14 PM 06-15-2005:
lentil soup and black bean soup have Massive amounts of protein. so does kelloggs raisin bran and canned tuna. check the labels on the whole wheat bread aisle. some breads have 3 or 4 grams of protein a slice. kelloggs raisin bran sn't the cheapest, but it has the most protein. |
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| amy [email] said at 5:16 PM 06-15-2005:
just buy the progresso brand soup on sale, way cheaper and easier than making it from scratch. throw some sour cream on that shit and eat it. |
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| rick [email] said at 5:31 PM 06-15-2005:
Grain protein is not retained well by the body; that being said, it has fiber and other benefits not found in animal protein. |
 | brandon [email] said at 5:20 PM 06-15-2005:
I'm doing that replace two meals a day with special K thing, and I've already dropped 5 pounds in about 2 weeks. I want to be hale and firm when Myriam comes to visit.
LL says stay away from rice, steak and chicken, eat of the fish and the egg whites, and the locust of the fields. Also, an hour of cardio a day, another hour just for the abs if you wanna be ripped like J. damn. |
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| myriam [email] said at 5:28 PM 06-15-2005:
I'm down 15 pounds thanks to depression. Can you beat me? |
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| brandon [email] said at 5:33 PM 06-15-2005:
Do you want to make this a race to the bottom? How about, if I win, you have to have sex with me and pretend to like it? |
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| myriam [email] said at 5:51 PM 06-15-2005:
it would have to be proportional--15 pounds off my frame counts a lot more than 20 pounds off your parade float person |
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| brandon [email] said at 5:58 PM 06-15-2005:
Yeah it's true, white trash are always throwing beads at me after I pass. |
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| kara [email] said at 5:30 PM 06-15-2005:
Also, an hour of cardio a day, another hour just for the abs if you wanna be ripped like J. damn.
fuck that, I'm not asking for fitness advice. Sleep. |
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| brandon [email] said at 5:47 PM 06-15-2005:
no, man, you look great, I'm just saying, if you want to be ripped like J, damn he's a fine man. |
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| amy [email] said at 5:33 PM 06-15-2005:
don't forget to lift some weights, at least tackle your major muscle groups. muscle burns more fat |
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| rick [email] said at 5:34 PM 06-15-2005:
This is very true. |
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| kara [email] said at 5:35 PM 06-15-2005:
please ignore brandon.
this post is not about fitness or weight loss. |
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| rick [email] said at 5:36 PM 06-15-2005:
Whoa! have you come down with kwashiokor?!?!? |
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| kara [email] said at 5:37 PM 06-15-2005:
well no... |
 | amanda [email] said at 5:21 PM 06-15-2005:
Can you eat fish? |
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| kara [email] said at 5:30 PM 06-15-2005:
I can but $$$ |
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| amanda [email] said at 5:53 PM 06-15-2005:
Cod and haddock are relatively inexpensive. Also, you could make salmon or tuna patties, which would also contain egg (for added protein). Cans or pouches of tuna or salmon are cheap, and the patty mixture will produce several meals.
Another recommendation would be to add wheat germ to your recipes/fruit juice/etc. when possible.
Spanakopita would get you iron and protein.
-6-7 cups of blanched spinach (or the frozen stuff, usually two packages)
-1 onion
-1/2 lb. butter
-6 large eggs
-2 lbs. ricotta or cottage cheese
-1/2-1 lb. crumbled feta cheese
-salt and freshly ground pepper
-1/2 lb. filo dough (if frozen, thawed to room temp.)
Chop the spinach and dice the onion. Saute the onion in 2 TBSP. of the butter, until soft. Add the spinach until moisture is gone. Remove from heat and let cool down (so the heat won't cook the eggs in the next step).
Beat eggs and mix in cheeses. Add the spinach mixture to this and season with salt and pepper.
Melt the remaining butter (microwave is fine) and remove the filo dough from the packaging. Cover the dough with a moistened dish towel, so the dough won't dry up. Preheat oven to 375.
Butter a 15 x 10-inch backing dish, using a pastry brush and the melted butter. Layer sheets of filo dough, brushing each with melted butter, until you have a stack of about 10 or the bottom of the dish is adequately covered. Spread the spinach mixture on top and cover the pie with another 10 sheets of dough, buttering them as before. Bake in preheated oven at 375 for 15 minutes, and then reduce heat to 350 for 30 minutes. If the top layer starts to get too dark, cover the dish with foil. Let rest 10-15 minutes before cutting.
You can obviously add additional seasonings or spices to this if you want. I usually add oregano and sprinkle some fennel seeds on the top before baking. |
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| amanda [email] said at 6:02 PM 06-15-2005:
...also, sometimes a bit of nutmeg or allspice in the spinach mixture part is a good addition. |
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| brianbibbly [email] said at 6:02 PM 06-15-2005:
Christ. Talk about northerner carpetbagging food. Cod? Haddock? |
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| amanda [email] said at 6:09 PM 06-15-2005:
I don't eat either of the above, but they're cheap fish if money is an issue. Personally, I go for the swordfish or the tuna steaks, with the occasional mahi mahi or salmon. That, or the panfish I catch. I've found an amazing beer batter/pretzel breading recipe for those.
My mom is currentl making asparagus and mushroom velouté with blue crab and hazelnut cream. Mmm... |
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| rick [email] said at 6:10 PM 06-15-2005:
Swordfish is delicious. |
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| brandon [email] said at 8:34 PM 06-15-2005:
It really is. I have an excellent swordfish recipe that the classics department really dug. Unfortunately, there's no soy involved. |
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| abby [email] said at 9:20 PM 06-15-2005:
COD: THE FISH THAT CHANGED THE WORLD |
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| rick [email] said at 5:26 PM 06-15-2005:
An old trick of those who are strapped for cash is to buy powdered milk and blend it with something else. Cow's milk has relatively good protein.Soy protein is good for non-animal products but it is not as good as animal proteins. Soy has some benefits though that animal foods do not have. If you want a good protein source, I suggest whey peptide blend supplement that has been made with ion-exchange or cross-flow membrane extraction. One reason being that its protein is better than any other source including whole eggs and whey isolate due to a higher content of di- and tri-peptide forms which are easier for the body to hold onto. Another reason being that these same di- and tri-peptide forms are utilized by the body in immunity, notably with glutathione, an antioxidant which works against illness and carcinogen. Or so I have read. I have used "Designer Whey" by Next Nutrition. It is cheaper than most other supplements ( about $20 at GNC) and comes in chocolate, vanilla and strawberry. I have also read recommendations for "Myogen-RX" by NHF:Nutrition, "Whey Fuel" by Twinlab, "Whey-More" by Champions Choice, and "Perfect Protein" by Unipro. I think the last one is around $50-$60 though. |
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| kara [email] said at 5:30 PM 06-15-2005:
thanks dude!! |
 | kevin [email] said at 6:22 PM 06-15-2005:
i second the Designer Whey stuff. it is pretty cheap and one 24 gram scoop of the stuff has 18grams of protein which is pretty rad!
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cory said at 5:26 PM 06-15-2005:
Do you like baked beans? I like to eat it on toast. Yum. Lots of protein. Don't do this before a date. |
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| rick [email] said at 5:33 PM 06-15-2005:
It is fine to do it before a date so as long as one takes Beano as well. |
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| ed [email] said at 5:38 PM 06-15-2005:
Or if you date Britney Spears. |
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| rick [email] said at 5:40 PM 06-15-2005:
I heard the Kentwood Jiggler talks about her flatulence on her show. I am pleased that our society has progressed to the point in which dificult topics may be spoken of in a frank and earnest manner. |
 | ericanm [email] said at 5:47 PM 06-15-2005:
my favorite quick protein source is this vegan jerky like snack called PRIMAL STRIPS. there are 10 grams of protein in each of them, and the mesquite and lime flavor is addictive. at 74 calories and 10 grams of protein, you can't beat that. they cost about a dollar a piece, depending on where you get them. yes! has them for 1.20 |
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| ed [email] said at 5:52 PM 06-15-2005:
Must. Investigate.
I too, although I love being a carnivore, would like to consume fewer animal products.
Thanks, ENM! |
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| kara [email] said at 5:57 PM 06-15-2005:
I think I might have had or seen these at your house but maybe I am thinking of something else.
Snack foods are good because I fuckin snack all day |
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| ericanm [email] said at 6:58 PM 06-15-2005:
these are great. some of the flavors, like the hickory smoke, are kind of spicy and might fuck with your stomach. i find them very easy to digest. mesquite and lime as well as the teryaki flavors are great. |
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| myriam [email] said at 5:53 PM 06-15-2005:
CHEEEEEEEEEEEESE |
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| myriam [email] said at 5:55 PM 06-15-2005:
i found that carrying around the following small snacks kept me going throughout the day and blended well together:
a couple hardboiled eggs
sharp cheddar cheese pieces
walnuts (sometimes almonds but they are pricey)
a few dill pickles.
these things mingle really well and if you need to be able to snack on small things frequently they make great bite-sized amounts.
also, salami is easy to carry around and enjoy. |
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| myriam [email] said at 5:56 PM 06-15-2005:
they mingle in both flavor and texture--the crunchy pickles and chewy nuts offset the light eggs and cheese.
i'm serious it's a GREAT daylong combo. |
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| rick [email] said at 5:56 PM 06-15-2005:
Cheese and nuts are high in fat as is salami. Moreover, all processed and potted meat have potential carcinogens. |
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| myriam [email] said at 5:58 PM 06-15-2005:
everything has potential carcinogens, seriously. also i feel like, if you eat salami but hardly ever eat anything else processed, you're fine. that kind of thing is all about moderation.
also, like i said, these are small snacks that offset each other. i'm not saying pig out on fatty things--in the end you'd be surprised at how little you end up eating. it kind of depends on what the rest of your diet is, too. i'm sure kara isn't washing all her snacks down with a double double cheeseburger and side of fries. |
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| rick [email] said at 6:07 PM 06-15-2005:
"everything has potential carcinogens, seriously."This is untrue. And yes, it is all about moderation but when one considers that ( or at least every salami specimen, I have come upon) has been like 70% fat, one might as well scarf down lard. It would be one thing if that fat was mono-unsaturated fat or poly-unsaturated fat but it is saturated fat. And yes, excess adipose heightens one's risk of cancer. |
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| myriam [email] said at 6:42 PM 06-15-2005:
do you cook with gas? many carcinogens.
do you breathe outdoor air? many carcinogens.
do you come into contact with plastics? many carcinogens. carpet? indoor air conditioning? check, check. |
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| amanda [email] said at 6:46 PM 06-15-2005:
I'm pretty much in agreement with you here. Even organic foods are not fully protected from pesticide infiltration and polluted soil/water. The more I learn from my ecology and environmental science classes, the more I realize that humanity is inevitably fucked. |
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| rick [email] said at 6:48 PM 06-15-2005:
Obviously, there are a lot of problems in any millieu.And anyone who lives in any sizeable community will be exposed to any number of impurities that may lead to illness. Some people find that they "have to" live in certain cities; thus, the risk is unavoidable. Likewise, even if one only drinks distilled water there is likely going to be exposure to tap water at some point which often has pollutants. And of course, there are power lines. And second-hand smoke. There is nothing unavoidable about processed meat. Why bring on more risk? By the way, cooking with aluminum may very well heighten one's risk for Alzheimers. |
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| myriam [email] said at 7:09 PM 06-15-2005:
the aluminum-alzheimers link was actually disproved, i believe. but otherwise, see below. |
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| rick [email] said at 7:25 PM 06-15-2005:
It is controversial but the fact is, aluminum, since the Nineteenth Century, has been deemed neurotoxic. I think it wholly prudent to lessen alumminum dish use for cooking, especially with acidic foods, given there are alternatives. |
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| myriam [email] said at 7:08 PM 06-15-2005:
most vegetables you can buy in the grocery store in america carry carcinogenic pesticide residue. perhaps not DDT-level, but still.
my point is that you really cannot avoid being exposed to carcinogens in a modern lifestyle, so it seems silly to rule one food out for that reason. better to attempt to be moderate in the grand scheme than to focus on small particular occasional dangers. |
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| rick [email] said at 7:22 PM 06-15-2005:
"most vegetables you can buy in the grocery store in america carry carcinogenic pesticide residue. perhaps not DDT-level, but still."Another excellent argument to buy organic. Add to that that organic vegetables tend to have higher nutritional content. I never said or suggested that one could reasonably hope to avoid all carcinogens. My whole point is that if one has a choice, one ought to go with the least risk. If one cannot afford organic vegetables, that does not mean I want one to eschew vegetables altogether; they are still good for one's self ( as what's-his-name, the author of "The Skeptical Environmentalist" pointed out). And if one cannot help exercising in a city with air pollution, it is still better that they do so ( with a few appropriate steps) than they sit inside. But diet, as does lifestyle in general, counts for a lot. And it is not silly to have a policy of general avoidance of some foods; most people do not have the resolve to wholly abstain but it is very possible to regulate some foods to the "seldom" category; not for everyday consumption. |
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| rick [email] said at 7:23 PM 06-15-2005:
Bjorn Lomburg wrote "The Skeptical Environmentalist". |
 | josh [email] said at 9:42 AM 06-16-2005:
do you come into contact with plastics?
surely touching plastic will not give you cancer unless particles of the plastic entire your body? |
art said at 10:05 AM 06-16-2005:
outgassing from plastic materials like carpeting is a big deal. You are basically inhaling petrochemicals 24/7. Chemicals found in carpeting include: Formaldehyde, Ethylbenzene, Tolulene, xylene, styrene, tetrachloroethylene (TCE), acetonitrile, azulene, benzene, diphenyl ether, dodecane, etc. This is the primary reason we went with wood floors in our house |
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| josh [email] said at 10:15 AM 06-16-2005:
Carpeting, yes, I've heard of that, but for example, a soda bottle? A Compact Disc? |
art said at 10:30 AM 06-16-2005:
actually, there is some recent concern about plastic milk, juice and water bottles. They contain Bisphenol-A, a chemical which acts like weak estrogen. The alarmist site. This issue has gotten enough attention to warrant the plastics industry to create their own website on the issue: Bisphenal-A.org
Explaining yet again why girly-men will inherit the earth. |
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| kara [email] said at 10:16 AM 06-16-2005:
I'm sure the resin casting I do is giving me some kind of painful death |
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| ed [email] said at 6:14 PM 06-15-2005:
Ahh! Pickles are really bad for you, too. Too much acidity. One wants to keep the pH level in one's blood as alkaline as possible, and pickles are created by making cucumbers (good for you) live in vinegar (kinda like battery acid for blood cells).
That said, damnit... I loves me some pickles. Why does everything (almost, anyway) that tastes great have to be so bad for you? |
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| ed [email] said at 6:11 PM 06-15-2005:
Unfortunately, dairy products (especially processed ones) are so bad for you that the benefits do not outweigh the detriments.
This coming from someone who totally overindulges in cheese just because it's SO FREAKIN' GOOD! |
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| rick [email] said at 6:12 PM 06-15-2005:
Buy organic. Most of the problems with dairy have to do with the ughsome nature of livestock production in the U.S. |
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| ed [email] said at 6:21 PM 06-15-2005:
Kara did mention the $$$ aspect (ruling out a huge percentage of the organic market).
Plus, it is interesting to note that humans are the only species on the planet that continue to consume milk and/or milk products after weaning.
It's good for babies. Mamas, stick them kids up against a nipple for a few years. That's what the whole system is FOR. But dang, after a while, there are way better methods of ingesting the vitamins and minerals (especially calcium) than through milk.
Milk is for infants, not adults.
And if you try to take away my big-ass glass of milk while I'm eating a peanut butter sammich, you may draw back a nub.
I know, I've contradicted myself a dozen times in this thread, but like I've alluded to, just because it tastes good doesn't mean it's good for you. I wish I could give up milk today. And I have, 99% from my former consumption level. But every now and then, the cravings strike. And I'm a weak, weak man. |
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| rick [email] said at 6:33 PM 06-15-2005:
Milk may be a good food for some people.The problems with milk are: 1) a significant percentage of the world's population do not digest it well. 2) most milk production in the U.S. is every bit as bad as most meat production; there is wanton use of antibiotics ( half of all antibiotics in the U.S. is used on livestock), hormones ( it is thought the age of menarche has gone down in part to hormone presence in meat and milk), and general lack of cleanliness which puts people at risk of disease 3) milk, in its natural state, tends to be rather fatty Only the first problem is unsolveable. The next two may be dealt with simply by buying organic skim milk ( which, yes, maybe be outside of some persons' price range). Milk is a good source of calcium and protein ( in fact, so as far as I know, its protein is second only to whole eggs as far as "natural" proteins go). If cost is the only factor, then, yes, forgo the milk. But if one can afford organic skim milk, and has no problem digesting it, one can do much worse in terms of food. |
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| milky [email] said at 6:44 PM 06-15-2005:
That's why I was always the mf'n Milkman. I dip into the soy when the stomach is buggin'. |
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| amanda [email] said at 6:35 PM 06-15-2005:
I drink close to a half-gallon of 1% milk each day. I'm not doing it for any dietary purpose; I just desire milk. Since this addiction has started, I've had no issues with gaining weight and have actually started to mysteriously lose weight.
Also, soy proponents should keep in mind that close to 90% of soybeans grown in the U.S. are genetically modified. I mean, so is almost anything these days, but the people who like to criticize cow milk and favour soy milk as some sort of perfect miracle replacement often fail to recognize this. |
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| kara [email] said at 9:46 AM 06-16-2005:
Kara did mention the $$$ aspect (ruling out a huge percentage of the organic market).
correct... thanks! |
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| amy [email] said at 6:33 PM 06-15-2005:
in the country roads magazine they were talking to kleinpeter farms about organic milk production, he said they would never go totally organic bc he didn't think it was humane for the cows. if a cow gets sick, anything, it goes to slaughter. at kleinpeter they quarantine the cow, give it the medicine, and don't put it back on the line until the drugs have cleared. sending the cow to slaughter if it gets the flu or an infection sounds pretty horrendous to me. |
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| rick [email] said at 6:38 PM 06-15-2005:
As callous and as cold as this sounds, I would rather antibiotics be reserved for the humans. I fear this antibiotic use on livestock may very well help to put us in a situation in which antibiotic are no longer effective against illness. Admittedly, there are a lot of physicians who are also to blame for giving out antibiotics without sufficient cause but as I pointed out, half the antibiotics used in the US go to livestock.The current practices of antibiotics in livestock is for commercial reasons ( to protect the producers investment in livestock), not public health and/or gastronomic reasons which I tend to be against. |
 | jess [email] said at 6:13 PM 06-15-2005:
THINGS WITH BEANS. I have more lentil and chickpea recipes than I know what to do with. I will share them with you, provided you like beans. |
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| jess [email] said at 6:25 PM 06-15-2005:
Modified from a recipe I found online:
THE FABULOUS LENTIL SOUP
2 medium onions
3 carrots
½ cup fresh spinach
5 cloves of garlic, pressed
¼ cup olive oil
1 tablespoon cumin
2 large cinnamon sticks
2 bay leaves
1 ½ cups lentils
½ cup short-grain brown rice
8 cups of water
salt, pepper, cayenne pepper
Basically, I just saute the onions and garlic, and then throw the ingredients in there (rice and lentils first). Bring the soup to a simmer and let it sit for about two hours. |
 | reggie [email] said at 8:27 PM 06-15-2005:
Not that this does you any good but your comment about soy products reminded me that for some reason today some folks in a truck where giving away boxes of soymilk. |
 | anthony [email] said at 8:33 PM 06-15-2005:
No one on here mentioned tempeh, or maybe i mispelled it. Anyhow, tempeh has 18g per serving, or 36g per package. It's like 2 bucks at a trader joes, and easy to cook. Just cut it up and fry it in a little olive oil/non-stick pan and add soy sauce. |
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| kara [email] said at 9:49 AM 06-16-2005:
Ah I havent had tempeh in a long time, and never prepared by myself. I should try though. |
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| anthony [email] said at 12:18 PM 06-16-2005:
you should try it, or if you ever find yourself in VA, i will make some for you...it takes very little time to make, and i usually eat it with brown rice and some gravy... |
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| josh [email] said at 10:16 AM 06-16-2005:
We really should simply add a recipe database to killoggs. Actually, I guess I should be the one to add it, eh? |
 | chuck [email] said at 11:35 AM 06-16-2005:
I missed my Mother's Meatloaf and found this vegetarian recipe the works well for me.
INGREDIENTS:
1/2 (14 ounce) package vegetarian ground beef (eg: Gimme Lean TM)
1 (12 ounce) package vegetarian burger crumbles
1 onion, chopped
2 eggs, beaten (optional)
2 tablespoons vegetarian Worcestershire sauce
1 teaspoon salt
1/3 teaspoon pepper
1 teaspoon ground sage
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
2 teaspoons prepared mustard
1 tablespoon vegetable oil
3 1/2 slices bread, cubed
1/3 cup milk (soy milk)
1 (8 ounce) can tomato sauce
4 carrots, cut into 1 inch pieces (optional)
1 cooking spray
DIRECTIONS:
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F (175 degrees C).
In a large bowl combine vegetarian ground beef, vegetarian ground beef crumbles, onion, eggs, Worcestershire sauce, salt, pepper, sage, garlic powder, mustard, oil, bread cubes and milk. Transfer to a 9 x 13 inch baking dish and form into a loaf. Pour tomato sauce on top.
Place carrots around loaf and spray vegetables with cooking spray.
Bake 30 to 45 minutes; turn vegetables. Bake another 30 to 45 minutes. Let stand 15 minutes before slicing. |
RedSparrow said at 11:03 AM 06-17-2005:
Quinoa is said to be the perfect protein when combined with ...rice? or some other grain. I think the ancient mayans used it and they were warriors or something. | |
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