Save yourself some money and don't rent the movie Elephant. It is stupid and a waste of time. Gus Van Zant is a prick. Unless you like to watch dumb high school kids aimlessly walk around forever and have scenes repeat for no reason than go ahead and be my guest. I stopped watching this movie halfway through because I was getting mad. I am done rambling now.
nelson. said at 2:32 AM 08-02-2004: This is so ironic.
I literally just quit watching this film a hour into it because I was nearly bored to tears.
If this movie was anymore pretentious,
Billy Corgan would have to be in it.
gen [email] said at 10:28 AM 08-02-2004: I watched the whole thing too. It didn't bother me enough to post about it, though it was extroardinarily long and slow. But it's gets better towards the end (the part Emmanuel and Nelson missed). I didn't like it, but I didn't hate it either.
Randy [ url ] said at 12:43 AM 08-02-2004: Gus Van Sant is a total piece of shit. At least as a filmmaker (don't know about him personally). The only movie he did that was any good was Drugstore Cowboy. The rest is just pretentious faux-artistic slop.
josh [email] said at 2:11 AM 08-02-2004: Good Will Hunting was a decent movie. My Own Private Idaho was okay as I recall, but it's been more than a decade since I've seen it.
reggie [email] said at 1:37 AM 08-02-2004: I already spent the money on renting Elephant and watched it twice.
I found it to be a very sobering and haunting movie. In an age where everyone attempts to place the blame for Columbine or any incident in which a young person behaves in an otherwise socio/psychopathic manner on anyone but themselves. But what no one ever stopped to consider is that maybe some kids are just messed up. Since then and especially post 9/11 not a single person in a prominent role in society has stopped to look in the mirror when it comes to issues like these. If an explanation for the acts of Dylan and Klebold (or al Qaeda) are to be defined then the first place we should all look is in a mirror. But nobody wants to do that. The Elephant of the title refers to the old saying about how there's an elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about. We all know it's there but no one chooses to acknowledge it.
milky [email] said at 2:24 AM 08-02-2004: People don't study psychology except for pop psych and drug ads. They support the war, buy into Atkins lock stock, and watch stupid movies. Bullets and XBoX
The public gets what it deserves. We're producing sociopaths at an alarming rate. Why? To be a powerful, rich capitalist in this society, you have to have no sense of right and wrong. Carry the knife with two sharp ends, one to stab the guy behind you and one to knife the guy in front of you.
bradley said at 8:52 AM 08-02-2004: How do you sleep at night, knowing that you contribute taxes to such an evil organization? I suggest you leave the country in order to stop this senseless buggery.
bradley said at 9:17 AM 08-02-2004: I'm just trying to help you out here. I'm offering a viable alternative to a situation that obviously bothers you enough to make you hate the place that you live in.
bradley said at 9:39 AM 08-02-2004: Fuck this country.
Seriously, guys. This is not healthy analysis and criticism of the government (which is necessary to run a good government), this is bitter discontent expressed by an individual that is unhappy about something. People in this situation need a change. If your job is so bad that you say "Fuck this job", you quit. Problem solved.
zack [email] said at 10:38 AM 08-02-2004: hey i'm not agreeing with milk 100% here, but the basis of your argument reads like "love it or leave it", which is fucking stupid. I love america, even though there are some stone cold assholes running it into the ground right now.
bradley said at 11:52 AM 08-02-2004: Regardless of what it reads like, I'm mentioning a viable alternative. If something bothers you enough to where you feel the need to say "fuck that thing", then you shouldn't subject yourself to it. If milky were saying "my school sucks, fuck that school" I would suggest that he change schools. I'm not taking an attitude of "if you don't support Bush 100% you need to get the fuck out of my country!", I'm just noting that Milk might feel a little better living in a country besides the one that he hates.
I'm a problem-solver, I'm just trying to help out here.
milky [email] said at 10:25 AM 08-02-2004: I don't give a fuck if he's as eloquent as Robert fucking Kennedy. He's still bradley. What's your point? David Duke speaks eloquently at times.
scott [email] said at 9:32 AM 08-02-2004: Bought it. Watched it. Didn't like it. About the only thing I liked about it was that Timothy Bottoms was in it, and I've liked him ever since I first watched The Last Picture Show. And his part is so small, even that is a stretch.
milky [email] said at 10:27 AM 08-02-2004: I can't shake the image of him playing Dubya on Comedy Central...so seeing him playing a drunk in Elephant, weaving from lane to lane was like a historical reinactment. I laughed pretty hard.
cecil [email] said at 1:58 PM 08-02-2004: I thought the very last scene was really stupid and that was disappointing, but I don't think I've ever seen a movie like it, and it looked good, and I like watching teenagers, especially the girl in the darkroom, and something about the pale blonde kid in the yellow shirt was amazing to look at. So, I liked it okay.
emmanuel [email] said at 10:58 PM 08-02-2004: So what does happen at the end? I stopped watching it after the 2 dudes were making out in the shower. Does that kid start shooting people?
