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Rich Fucking Assholes
I live in the middle of a bunch of Fucking Rich Assholes.
I hate it. I hate it so much, it makes me want to scream. I have more in common with my neighbor's housekeepers than I do with them. Anne and I are 33 and 30. Most of our neighbors are in their 50s. Her kids play with kids whose parents are the same age as MY parents.
I fucking hate these people. Not because they're old, not because they're rich, but because they are Fucking Rich Assholes. You know the type: they look down on everyone as they drive off to tennis at the club in their matching Lexuses (Lexii?)
So.
Tonight, Anne and I had to go to a screening for "Neverland," which we both worked on. We didn't think we'd be back until 10, and arrainged for the boys to go to a sitter. The boys aren't crazy about this sitter, because her house is small, and there isn't much to do there. They also complain that it smells funny.
I have been pushing for a hot teenage babysitter for several years, but it hasn't happened, so they were set to go to the smelly house for the evening.
Anne and I were planning on leaving at 6. Around 4:30, Ryan started bitching about going to the sitter. (He's 13, so he has two modes: bitch and sulk.) He asked to go to a friend's house instead. We told him that wasn't a good idea, because we'd be out late, and it's a school night. Ryan wouldn't take no for an answer, and went to work on Anne. Nolan walked in, and double-teamed her untl she gave in.
Nolan called one of his friends, the son of one of these Fucking Rich Assholes, and asked if they could spend the evening there. Anne spoke with Mr. Fucking Rich Asshole, and told him that we would be in Culver City, and wouldn't be back until sometime between 9:30 and 10, closer to 10. He agreed, and we dropped the kids there.
I was against it. I don't know these people at all. The few times I've dropped Nolan off there to play, Mr. Rich Fucking Asshole has sneered down his nose at me, and Mrs. Rich Fucking Asshole has spoken to me like I'm one of her teenage children. We don't know them well enough to impose like this, but the kids had done a very effective job of playing on mom's emotions while she was racing to get ready. I was racing to make dinner, so by the time I found out what was happening, it was too late.
We dropped the kids at 6:30, and went to the screening.
The movie is amazing! It's better than I'd ever hoped, and I spent a long time after talking to distributors, executives and other industry types. We didn't leave until 11:50.
I called Mr. Rich Fucking Asshole. I apoligized, and told him that I'd gotten caught up at the screening, and we were racing back as fast as we could. He asked me how late we'd be, and I told him that we were most likely looking at 30 minutes. We'd be picking up the kids as quickly as possible, but but it was likely that we'd be there at 10:30.
He sarcastically said, "Wow." And hung up the phone!
So I turned to Anne, and asked her if they understood that we may run late. Apparently, they did not.
I felt terrible. These people are Rich Fucking Assholes, but I felt like they agreed to one thing, and something different happened. I urged Anne to drive like a maniac to get us home in time.
She did, and we made great time -- for two miles, when we got caught in the traffic from Staples Center letting out.
My stomach turned itself into knots, and I cursed a lot. We finally pulled into their driveway at 10:28.
We ran up the walk, and knocked on the door.
Mrs. Rich Fucking Asshole opened it, Mr. Rich Fucking Asshole standing right behind her. Her arms folded across her chest, her righteously indignant look fixed firmly upon her face, she glared at me while I apologized.
"I'm very sorry that we're so late. This was an Industry screening of a film we both worked on, and I had to --"
"You are very rude. I have to say that right away." She declared. Mr. Rich Fucking Asshole stood behind her, and smirked at us.
"I thought that you two knew that we were at an Industry screening, and that we may run a bit late --"
She cut me off again. "Then you should have left. We didn't know if you were dead, and we were responsible for your children." Her voice rose, and her nostrils flared. "You called us at 10! 30 minutes late!" She was nearly yelling at me now. "NINE THIRTY MEANS NINE THIRTY! "
When she stopped to breathe in, I gently said, "I completely understand that you're upset. I guess all I can do now is apologize. I feel terrible that this happened. When Nolan called your son --"
"It is not the children's responsibility to set these things up." She declared. Mr. Rich Fucking Asshole continued to stand behind her and smirk at me. He adjusted his glases and exhaled. She went on,"you should have spoken to us directly! This is the rudest --"
Now it was my turn to cut her off. I remained calm, and said, "Nolan called your house because he didn't want to go to the sitter. Anne and I were both running around our house, trying to get them ready to leave --"
"That doesn't change the fact that you didn't speak to us directly!" She interrupted, again.
Anne cleared her throat, and said, "I did speak with your husband. I told him that we were going to this screening, and we wouldn't be back until 9:30, or 10. I told him that it would be closer to 10."
At this point, Mr. Rich Fucking Asshole, who had silently smirked at us while Mrs. Rich Fucking Asshole tore into us like we were teenagers who'd stayed out past curfew, finally spoke up.
"She did speak with me," he said. He was very proud of himself.
And I hoped that he was, the rich fucking asshole. He stood there, and allowed his hysterical asshole wife to tear into us, without ever telling her that he KNEW we may not be back until 10.
Before she could speak again, I decided that I'd had enough. I had offered my apology, and taken responsibilty for fucking up. When I realized that she wasn't interested in an apology, but just wanted to put us in our place, I said, "Mrs. [Rich Fucking Asshole], I don't know what else to tell you. I'm am very sorry that this happened. I can't change it, but it won't happen again. I don't know what else to tell you."
I could tell that this took her by surprise. She hadn't prepared for me to be genuinely contrite. So she just said, "Well, then I guess we're done."
And closed the door in our faces.
We walked down the driveway, and went home.
See, I really did feel badly. I still do. I understand that they felt taken advantage of, and that they were upset by that. However, I apologized, and if she'd stopped interrupting me, I could have better explained the situation. I spoke about it with Anne when we got home, and we reached a few conclusions:
1. The phone works both ways. They had our cell numbers. If they were so concerned that we were dead, they could have called us, right?
2. She didn't want an apology. She wasn't interested in it. She treated us the way Rich Fucking Assholes treat waiters, house keepers, and others who they think are beneath them. I think it took her completely by surprise that I apologized, and tried to clarify what had happened, rather than cowering.
I can't wait to move out of this bullshit fucking place, and live near normal people again.
[ posted by wil at 01/31/2003 03:11:04 PM ] [ trackback ]
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Woody said at 3:17 PM 01-31-2003:
Uhh, Wil... I think you forgot your kid at their house... |
 | kiche [email] said at 3:47 PM 01-31-2003:
well, i guess we all know who won that little confrontation. |
art said at 3:40 PM 01-31-2003:
Boy, are they assholes....
So you were late, so what? I don't think you should beat yourself up, nor do I believe there is anything you could have said that would have made her happy, except maybe offering to have sex with her (it sounds like she hasn't had any in a while).
Plus, if they are assholes (and they sure sounds like the real thing), you should immediately discount their opinions as trash and not dwell on it.
By the way, Nolan is 13 - isn't he old enough to be left home alone by now? |
art said at 3:42 PM 01-31-2003:
make that Ryan... |
anotherben.. said at 4:16 PM 01-31-2003:
some day those kids will make an incredible pitching team. |
Emmaliegh said at 4:33 PM 01-31-2003:
sounds like they both need a good deep dickin'. you should send porn catalogs to their house; maybe they will get some ideas. |
 | josh [email] said at 3:46 PM 01-31-2003:
Damn, that sucks. Sounds like Mr. RFA is used to getting it from his wife so he was happy to let someone else take the brunt. |
No face here said at 4:04 PM 01-31-2003:
I'd say find the neighborhood high school kids and bribe them to egg their house. It's only fair. |
 | kara [email] said at 4:39 PM 01-31-2003:
Moral of this story: never have kids. |
 | gen [email] said at 7:55 PM 01-31-2003:
LOL.
I couldn't agree more. |
 | courtney [email] said at 3:21 PM 02-02-2003:
this need not apply when they're stepkids ;) |
Angeleatwork said at 5:15 PM 01-31-2003:
Wow! I got so angry reading this post. Man, I feel for you. I have major issues with the RFAs of the world, too. We have loads of self-important pieces of aged shit living in Washington DC.
The rudest thing to do, according to Miss Manners, is to call someone else rude. I agree. If only there was perfect revenge in life... To make other people realize just how rotten and pathetic they are when they shit all over somebody like that. |
AngeleL said at 1:00 PM 02-02-2003:
Oh! By the way, Wil. My best friend lives in LA and makes a living babysitting for RFA's. She's a great person and I'd guess she has impecable references. If you find yourself in this situation again, and your kids don't want to go to the smelly house, she could be an alternative. She's not a hot teenage babysitter, but she was a cheerleader in the movie Bring It On, to her credit. I'm just trying to be of help to two friends of mine, in the same area, who have compatible problems. If you and Anne interested, email me and I'll give you her information.
Also, I checked out Neverland on the internet, it looks cool. What a cast! What did you and Anne do for this film? |
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| josh [email] said at 5:42 PM 02-03-2003:
There are two different Neverland's coming out this year, which seems kind of confusing... |
 | milky [email] said at 7:10 PM 02-03-2003:
Well, you know Wil _ain't_ in the one with Johnny Depp and Dustin Hoffman... |
 | loren [email] said at 8:57 PM 02-03-2003:
that was pretty smug |
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| josh [email] said at 9:28 PM 02-03-2003:
It reminds me of this talk radio show I was listening to the other day, Stephen Baldwin was on and one of the crew made fun of his recent career... Stephen replied "Okay, buddy, let's go to IMDB and see what movies you've been in lately- oh, wait, that's right - you're not on IMDB, are you?"
It was pretty funny. |
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| milky [email] said at 9:58 PM 02-03-2003:
that _is_ funny. |
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| milky [email] said at 9:59 PM 02-03-2003:
and _yes_ I was joking, I was not trying to flame the guy... |
Woody said at 11:55 PM 02-03-2003:
What a loser. Even my little brother is on IMDB!
We're so proud... |
 | jeff [email] said at 7:11 PM 01-31-2003:
I can't wait to move out of this bullshit fucking place, and live near normal people again.
You should move down to Baton Rouge, where Killoggs was born. Then you'd be around all sorts of normal people. |
 | Bendependent [email] said at 9:16 PM 01-31-2003:
You should come visit the Dirt Farm. I guess we're not really normal people though.
...at all in fact now that I think about it.
Damn. I live with a bunch of freaks.
I've drawn a bunch of comics about hating rich people since moving to DC. I think living in LA would be fun just for that reason. Perhaps I'll put them together into a book one of these days...
I have no tolerance whatsoever for people who freak out over anything that has to do with time...or anything else for that matter. |
 | sonny [email] said at 1:40 AM 02-01-2003:
1.people with more in their hands have less in their heart
2. When one values chewing someone out that much over a slight infraction upon thier comfort how bitter and sour their life must be All they see through their crusted eyes is their sad world they created for themselves where THEY are always right and EVERYone else "just doesn't get it" The most righteous men I know can admit when they are wrong
3."For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also" |
neilbert said at 10:44 PM 01-31-2003:
"Because I make more money than you, I'm better than you and beyond criticism." The Worthington Law-- From Mr. Show with Bob and David. |
norton [ url ]
said at 12:10 AM 02-01-2003:
As your doctor, I would advise you to EAT THEIR CHILDREN.
You must get some sort of revenge and satisfaction or this will eat at you all through high school and then you will one day be a bitter 31 year old...oh wait, that's me. Well, shit. |
bratpop [ url ]
said at 11:43 AM 02-02-2003:
Time and money; that's all those types care about. As long as it's their time and their money. I guarantee if you were in a position to rely on them, they'd be weeks late. "Oh, didn't you hear? We went to Maui. We left a message with your second uncle. I can't imagine why you didn't get it. Haw haw haw haw." |
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| courtney [email] said at 3:23 PM 02-02-2003:
I live in an interesting neighborhood... we have a mixture of both RFAs, middle class, and lower-income families, all within the same couple of blocks. It's a bit odd, but everyone seems to co-exist alright... as long as they don't talk to each other.
The kids that my stepkids play with have parents that are pretty lax, and we all let them stay over all day if the parents are busy, and vice versa. It's kinda nice. |
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| courtney [email] said at 3:24 PM 02-02-2003:
oh, and I forgot to mention, I live next door to a family with the last name Wheaton. Coincidence? I think not. |
 | seth [email] said at 5:12 PM 02-03-2003:
It is seriously, one of my greatest pleasures in life to see people blow up over me being late. Arriving to midterms/finals is my good luck charm, my friends have now told me an hour in advance (though I often learn of it) when we plan get togethers. I have this sort of attitude that lives in the _now_, that won't be denied. My roomate shares a lot of it, has put his girlfriend to tears because he made it seem like he didn't want to get together with her, only because he wanted to not plan anything and just surprise her by showing up later.
As for the RFAs, I'd just smile straight at em and wrestle with their kids, make em jealous of my mindstate.
I think Ben wants to move to LA for similar reasons. To infect the RFAs with spontinaity and fun, to make them question their LA life and perhaps flop it around a bit.
Saying it will never happen again is still bowing down.
I'd continue to do it (with an apologetic smile) until my kids weren't allowed at their house, and then their kids started begging to come to mine. |
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| josh [email] said at 8:38 PM 02-03-2003:
Arriving to midterms/finals is my good luck charm
I'd think arriving to them would be kinda an integral part of the process. |
meenk said at 6:16 PM 02-10-2003:
There's a couple of houses for sale near mine. You can't get any more normal than the midwest, and here, people wouldn't say "HEY, YOU'RE WESLEY CRUSHER!" They'd say, "You look like the guy that played Wesley Crusher," because obviously, no one who was REALLY on Star Trek would live in Minnesota. |
NathanK said at 11:33 PM 02-12-2003:
Star Trek would have been a good show if Prince was on it. |
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| kiche [email] said at 4:34 PM 02-13-2003:
i've heard mn is nice. is this true? |
meenk said at 4:45 PM 02-13-2003:
Yes. If it wasn't, I wouldn't have purchased a home here. |
Bryan said at 4:47 PM 02-13-2003:
I just moved here from Chicago and it's OK. I have gotten used to the constant cold surprisingly easily. Really not bad at all.
I do miss Chicago, tho.
Question: What's with all the Wil Wheaton referencing going on in Killoggs? Been here for a while but can't figure it. |
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| josh [email] said at 10:02 AM 02-14-2003:
You do realize that Wil is the guy who posted this post you're responding to, right? |
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| kiche [email] said at 4:51 PM 02-13-2003:
you bought a house meenk? damn.
and bryan, what are you talking about.
and, oh yeah. while i have decided i like the cold i could never buy a house where i would have to shovel snow, any suggestions? |
Bryan said at 4:52 PM 02-13-2003:
The desert gets cold in the winter. vegas is blowing up, lots of cheap new housing. Plus it's a couple hours from Tahoe if you want. |
Bryan said at 4:56 PM 02-13-2003:
Seriously, what's with all the Wheaton? I always see a ton of Wheaton searches. and here is just one more Wheaton reference. Why not references to George Takei? He looks like more fun at a bar. Really dry sense of humor. I would like George Takei by my side if I was to shimmy up to a coupla hot chickies. He'd be smooth.
Email me if it's a secret.
Like the guy in Dirty Harry: "I gots to know!" |
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| milky [email] said at 5:06 PM 02-13-2003:
wilwheaton.net is hosted by the webmaster/designer for killoggs, as wil is a friend of his.
Since wil is no longer posting on his site, his fans are fleeing here to embrace him, as he is a killoggs member. |
Bryan said at 5:16 PM 02-13-2003:
Oh! I wish to know no more... let this post be buried.
Kinda disappointed. Dig his stuff, but I was hoping it was a quirky running joke. |
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| courtney [email] said at 6:43 PM 02-13-2003:
shh. if we're really quiet and don't move, they won't even see us. Their vision is based on movement. |
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| kiche [email] said at 9:18 PM 02-13-2003:
it's really weird. they're all collecting down at the bottom of this post for some reason...
i guess it's because it was wil's last post...
personally, if i was one of them i would have gone through his archives and found the most interesting one... |
Geoff said at 10:00 PM 02-13-2003:
I thought they were coming for the free hot wings and the collectable pictures of Josh nude. Guess i'm mistaken. |
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| kiche [email] said at 10:03 PM 02-13-2003:
they're not coming for the hotwings, but they're probably picking up nude pics of josh. wil has some strange fans... |
Geoff said at 10:08 PM 02-13-2003:
I'm just waiting for when Will makes demands like:
Every head must have Vulcan ears.
Craig must be addressed as Capt. C
Daily Hot or Not w/pic of Wil. |
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| kiche [email] said at 10:45 PM 02-13-2003:
wil is only allowed to make demands of his fans.
we're all waiting for this to start, because we're sure it will provide a lot of entertainment. |
Bryan` said at 10:51 PM 02-13-2003:
I had no idea he this was anyone special. In fact, I paid more attention to what everyone replied. |
Geoff said at 11:00 PM 02-13-2003:
He is special, only in that I ride the short bus way. After all he was Wesley Crusher.
*waits as Kiche lays in wait to make another post* |
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| milky [email] said at 8:21 AM 02-14-2003:
there's nothing like a scorned Star Trek fan. |
Bryan said at 8:53 AM 02-14-2003:
For a while I thought that woth his haircut, Brandon might have been an angry Corey Haim, but that was the only inkling I had that a former cast member of Stand By Me was on this site. |
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| milky [email] said at 9:56 AM 02-14-2003:
Rick and I have talked about Corey Haim more than once on this site. |
Geoff said at 5:02 PM 02-14-2003:
Never watched Star Trek a day in my life. |
No face here said at 2:29 PM 02-14-2003:
Who wouldn't want George Takei as their wing man? The man has one of the best laughs ever. |
meenk said at 4:59 PM 02-13-2003:
Get a snowblower.
Sledding is the jam, and cold with no snow just isn't as fun. They make very manageable snowblowers, these days. My boyfriend's mom got one that is small and cute. |
Iki said at 7:50 PM 02-16-2003:
and, oh yeah. while i have decided i like the cold i could never buy a house where i would have to shovel snow, any suggestions?
Move next door to me. My neighbors shovel my sidewalks for beer.
Alot of that going on in the midwest, also. |
meenk said at 1:17 PM 02-17-2003:
Yeah, mine gets snowblown cos I live next door to my boss, and he has to keep up the image that he has a great work ethic, which is great, cos I live on the corner and have twice as much sidewalk as the 2 neighbour people. |
Iki [ url ]
said at 3:21 PM 02-17-2003:
I'm not sure that having my boss do my sidewalk would make up for having to live next to the bastard. Ugh. I mean, he's only useful in the winter. Unless he wants to rake my yard and mow my grass, then that would be a different story.
Also, he could pick up my dog's messes. That would make it worthwhile. |
meenk said at 4:01 PM 02-17-2003:
Well, I like my boss, so it isn't really a nuisance living next to him. I just wish he would get a car so he could drive me to work. |
Iki [ url ]
said at 4:28 PM 02-17-2003:
Liking your boss is a plus. I like my current boss... but the one before him was a raving psychotic. She only lasted 15 months though. It would be a little awkward living next to her since I was instrumental in getting her fired.
Heh heh. |
Julia [ url ]
said at 9:18 PM 02-12-2003:
Jesus H. Christ. After apologizing and going through some more abuse I probably would have smiled sweetly and said, "Whatever. So thanks for watching our kids. We love our kids and I'm sure you had a great time having them over since you obviously need some happiness in your life. B'bye!" Sorry.. just bitter about your experience.. been there several times and it pisses me off. |
Ben "Dubbya" said at 10:02 PM 02-12-2003:
Not sure if im supposed to post unless i have a wee picci but i am so...yeah
I hate neighbours. They bitch and moan and you have to "consider" them.
Sounds like these people live in a small universe and have even smaller minds. Forget them. Next time you walk Ferris have her crap on their lawn.
Shit. The best revenge I can think of. |
clara [ url ]
said at 12:13 AM 02-13-2003:
Better yet, on their doormat :) |
pmegan [ url ]
said at 10:09 PM 02-12-2003:
I know exactly what you're talking about. The rich fucking asshole has only ever said three words to me the 4 years we've lived next door to eachother. "Rent or own?" Then he turned around and stomped off. It was so incredibly rude I still don't quite believe it. |
Funderbunk said at 10:47 PM 02-12-2003:
Ah, the beauty of the Fucking Rich Asshole is that (proving there is some kind of benevolent diety up there) they have evolved such that their inherent assholeness makes them blind to certain kinds of oncoming danger.
When the bottom falls out from under them, and suddenly their money is gone, they are completely out of their element. Whereas trials and tribulations can actually strengthen some relationships, the F-R-A marriage will inevitably fail without money.
It's a great joy to watch a F-R-A fall, for they fall so hard so fast. |
h [ url ]
said at 12:10 AM 02-13-2003:
dude; my parents' friends wouldn't even care. they're like family. i guess they aren't exactly your friends lol but even the neighbors aren't assholes like them. don't beat yourself up over it. they don't even sound human. |
Kaz [ url ]
said at 12:41 AM 02-13-2003:
Two words: potato gun (not the little shooters, the big PVC pipe jobs) |
Me said at 3:48 AM 02-13-2003:
Remember that every time you see one of those morons driving their ugly-ass Lexus around, it's really just a Toyota. Yes, that's right . . . Lexus was created by Toyota so they could break into the "luxury" car market.
But it's still a Toyota . . heh . . :D |
gomer43 [ url ]
said at 6:28 AM 02-13-2003:
Wil... move near me, man. We got normal (and NICE) people here in Northern NJ... |
Luke [ url ]
said at 7:44 AM 02-13-2003:
They were rude to you because they felt they could never get anything out of you. Wait until those bastards want ticket's to Patrick Stewart's Christmas Carol. "Oh take your time, the kids are little angels." I know these people. I hate these people. |
Pat said at 11:52 AM 02-13-2003:
Eeeek. Know the type. When I was an au pair for a semi-rich family (who were great, cool kind people!), one of their friends treated me like a maid. My host family treated me like a family member, but she never even looked at me even if we sat at the same table. I learnt to despise FRA's bad ass... |
Stamatia said at 1:28 PM 02-13-2003:
The plural of Lexus would be Lexi (if it was "Lexius", then it'd be "Lexi").
People like that...there's no reasoning with them. The only thing you can do is try to avoid being in a social situation with them...because next time isn't going to be anymore pleasant.
Move to Canada - rich people are far less numerous. |
Stamatia said at 1:32 PM 02-13-2003:
...I mean, if it was Lexius it'd be Lexii. Heh. |
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| milky [email] said at 1:30 PM 02-13-2003:
WWDN=Killoggs now. |
Prettypurr said at 2:39 PM 02-13-2003:
Wow, I can empathize. Although I try to treat everybody the same way Rich or Non-rich, it doesn't always work out the same way for me. My first husband's parents were RFA's. It was beneath them that I came into the family, because I did not come from a family of RFA's, I was looked down upon. They evidently thought I was just after their "money". I didn't need their money, I had/have a job of my own. They didn't even bother to remember my name, I was just "the fat girl that he married". We were married about a year (probably a year too long). Sooo, anyways, I am glad to be married to a guy with normal middle-class family now. They at least know my name. |
Kman said at 3:27 PM 02-13-2003:
You have a great deal of patience. I would've put her in her place right then and there. |
Matt Shepherd [ url ]
said at 4:28 PM 02-13-2003:
Dude! I hate those people too, but just be glad you're not in the service industry. I spent years serving-with-a-capital-serve these dorkuses every...single...day. Pain in the arse, it was.
I will refine Stamatima's post and add Sherbrooke, Quebec to the moving recommendations list. Everyone up here is French, so not only would you go unrecognized, when you hook up with another Anglophone and speak real fast, it's like a SPECIAL SECRET CODE. Fun! Plus there's tons of good skiing. |
Heidi [ url ]
said at 5:14 PM 02-13-2003:
Son of a ninja fuck...I sympathize entirely. Marin County is a cess-pool of these people. I'd say it's like the condensed version of where you are... anyhow, it's nice to know that there are SOME real people left in these places. |
kawaii [ url ]
said at 5:37 PM 02-13-2003:
omg that totally sounds like my old neighbours. well, okay, not totally... i don't think they were rich, but they were assholes beyond belief. i live in a place that only has street parking. my house is in the middle of the block, so we only had maybe about 35' to park approx. 5 cars (house with 6 people)... so once in a while, we would cross over their "property line" and park one of the cars semi-in front of their house. they lived on a corner, and had approx. 100' to park 2 cars. every single time one of us would park our car close to their house, they would grumble about it and try to box us in. they even went as far as to actually hit my friend (and neighbour who lived in the same apartment house as i) sara's car trying to box her in as "punishment" for parking there. the neighbours one car that they drove had over 30' itself of parking space, but they didn't want even one car to be even close to their house. anyhow, we now have new neighbours, and they're much cooler. and don't freak out about parking (on street) issues. btw, those neighbours also had a garage (which we don't), and never used it to park anything in, and that's why they used the street. pfft. sorry for the long rant. ^_^ |
Bryan said at 5:40 PM 02-13-2003:
Kawaii that blows. I would freak out. Plus, i am extremely cruel when it comes to my cars, so the minute I knew they touched my car I would let them know. |
fuentegurl said at 7:13 PM 02-13-2003:
i know how u feel Will, i work in a tennis pro shop at a country club and these people drive me nuts...!!! |
Bryan said at 9:27 PM 02-13-2003:
I worked in a cigar store for 5 years. Best job of my life, except for when the boom came and all the yuppies wanted to play golf and smoke cigars. I like money, but not some of the people who have it. Half is jealousy, half is exclusivity - keep away from my hobby! |
 | angele [email] said at 11:46 PM 02-13-2003:
Where did you work at a cigar shop? |
Bryan said at 9:11 AM 02-14-2003:
It was in Joliet, IL in high school and into college. Really wild times. The best thing were the free cigars - we had to test them, you know - and I learned how to whittle wood from this guy Mike who worked with me. He was six-six, with a moustache that, when uncurled, stretched nine inches tip to tip. The other guy, Bill, was in his sixties with a giant ZZ top beard and always wore suspenders and thick glasses.
Very unique people frequent old tobacco shops. We stocked accordingly: shaving soap and mugs, straight razors and strops, a selection of fine canes, bone cuff links, snuff imported from Bulgaria, along with very old-mannish type tobacco like Schimmelpennick dry cigars and Bavarian Waldmeister pipes - monster ones, three-feet long pipes carved from root that hang from your neck on a strap like a saxophone and terminate in a lemon-sized ceramic bowl. We also stocked chewing tobacco steeped in sticky fruit essences, brass spitoons and pressed beeswax to polish meerschaum pipes and accelerate the browning of their porous stone. Once in a while we'd come across something truly ancient; in an old box we found filters for Dr. Grabow pipes that were dated 1963.
At the store, I learned how to roll cigarettes, how to fix any lighter (fluid or butane), the differences between metallic and stone flint, how to blow smoke rings, how to iron-gut, do the Irish jig, yell out in Creole, play the harmonica (barely), shave with a straight razor, and speak with a lit cigar in my mouth. I also smoked between 150 and 200 different types of cigars and "liberated" pipes. College-bound friends benefited too, with "back-to-school" sales. We hosted cigar dinners, and Mike and Bill were invited to two seperate customers' weddings. When my budy craig worked in the Babbage's two stores over, it was like the Goodfellas scene when Tommy has to "do time" with Pauly and Jimmy. If you ever get the chance to work in a genuine cigar shop, don't pass it up. Best job ever. |
No face here said at 2:25 PM 02-14-2003:
Bryan brought such refined tastes to the thugs of Manchester 5. Shit, he had a humidor in his room, where as I just had a bunch of ramen noodles and some porn. |
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| angele [email] said at 11:46 PM 02-13-2003:
Where did you work at a cigar shop? |
Guylian [ url ]
said at 11:46 PM 02-13-2003:
'Wow' indeed :(. I thought that Pasadena was a nice, multicultural middle-class neighbourhood - not some place that's destined to become a gated community. Heaven help those people if they ever get 'stuck' in the real world - Karma being God's Gift to us ordinary nice folk, hopefully they will. :) |
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| josh [email] said at 10:04 AM 02-14-2003:
Stay out of my beach community, deadbeat! |
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| kiche [email] said at 11:40 AM 02-14-2003:
i don't like you, and i don't like your deadbeat face. |
Matt Shepherd [ url ]
said at 7:18 PM 02-14-2003:
Ha! Now I know what I'm watching tonight. You've put the bug in me.
Ve beleef in nozing! Ve ah NIHILISTS! |
Christine [ url ]
said at 1:32 PM 02-15-2003:
Wil: I totally empathize with you! My husband and I are also barely 30, and we live in a neighborhood of Rich Fucking Assholes ourselves (not all of them, butmost of them). Thankfully, we don't have much excuse to interface with most of them! They SUCK and they shouldn't have behaved that way to you! |
Nadia said at 9:56 AM 02-16-2003:
Do they have any kids/grandkids to leave at your place? |
Tom [ url ]
said at 4:55 PM 02-16-2003:
Wil:
Can I please be out of "Time out" (forbidden) from wilwheaton.net.
I am sorry.
Tj |
KJB [ url ]
said at 8:48 PM 02-16-2003:
Rich fucking assholes make me want to break things.
Like their heads, and their giant fat SUVs, and their big ugly houses on tiny lots, and their bad dye jobs, and their insipid speech, and...
I have rage issues. |
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| kiche [email] said at 2:52 AM 02-17-2003:
now i like hearing this!
not that i hate the rich or anything, just wealthy assholes... |
Bryan said at 3:35 PM 02-17-2003:
this is the longest thread I have ever seen, just behind "penis envy" |
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| milky [email] said at 3:41 PM 02-17-2003:
It's not the longest.
However, something tells me if Wil doesn't write on his site anymore, it will be. |
Ken said at 4:41 PM 02-17-2003:
My lord you're ignorant. Stupid and annoying people exist, some poor some rich and many between. You characterize these people with the TERM rich and add attributes to them to fit your lable. Kind of reminds me of when people characterize others with the TERM black or jew and add attributes. But my guess is that you feel a lot like the white slave owners felt, threatened. |
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| angele [email] said at 5:05 PM 02-17-2003:
Good point Ken! However, nowhere in this post has anyone made the generalization that all rich people are stupid and annoying. No one should be persecuted by their ethnicity or any other attribute that they cannot help, however, these people were labelled Rich Fucking Assholes because of the way they treated Wil. I believe your attitude is something that you can modify. Quite simply, if your attitude stinks, then you stink. |
Ken said at 5:43 PM 02-17-2003:
Yes, but should some one be persecuted because they are rich or some other attribute that they CAN control? Wil labeled them "Rich Fucking Assholes" we all know "Fucking Asshole" would be a negative attribute. How about "Rich"? Did they treat Wil in such a poor manner because they are Rich or Fucking Assholes? Had Wil picked to use "Fucking Asshole" to describe them I would have simply agreed with him but when he added "Rich" to the label he is generalizing or at least stating that being "Rich" has to do with the bad behavior. If Wil's story was about a time went out to dinner with another couple and it was the third time they didn't pick up the check he might write a story about his cheap friends and how that inconsiderate behavior bothers him but if he added another word which has nothing to do with being cheap, like say Jewish or blue collar or even unemployed, you might be offended. I know I would. People don't mind it when bad things are being said about some one who is Rich (thats if your family makes for than $75k per year according to the democratic tax proposals) because they didn't earn it or just got it by exploiting others. |
Ken said at 5:46 PM 02-17-2003:
Yes, but should some one be persecuted because they are rich or some other attribute that they CAN control? Wil labeled them "Rich Fucking Assholes" we all know "Fucking Asshole" would be a negative attribute. How about "Rich"? Did they treat Wil in such a poor manner because they are Rich or Fucking Assholes? Had Wil picked to use "Fucking Asshole" to describe them I would have simply agreed with him but when he added "Rich" to the label he is generalizing or at least stating that being "Rich" has to do with the bad behavior. If Wil's story was about a time went out to dinner with another couple and it was the third time they didn't pick up the check he might write a story about his cheap friends and how that inconsiderate behavior bothers him but if he added another word which has nothing to do with being cheap, like say Jewish or blue collar or even unemployed, you might be offended. I know I would. People don't mind it when bad things are being said about some one who is Rich (thats if your family makes for than $75k per year according to the democratic tax proposals) because they didn't earn it or just got it by exploiting others. |
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| kiche [email] said at 7:56 PM 02-17-2003:
not that i hate the rich or anything, just wealthy assholes
said it right above your first post so i realize before trying to reason with you that your reading comprehension is shit.
Did they treat Wil in such a poor manner because they are Rich or Fucking Assholes?
they treated will the way they did because they were "fucking assholes" and "rich". do you really believe that they would have treated wil the same way if they had been poor and lived in a trailer? sure they might have been assholes to him, but they would have been assholes in a different way. i figured this out when i was 12 years old (yes, i just insulted you).
Had Wil picked to use "Fucking Asshole" to describe them I would have simply agreed with him but when he added "Rich" to the label he is generalizing or at least stating that being "Rich" has to do with the bad behavior.
crap. if say, what had happened to wil had happened to me, and instead of RICH FUCKING ASSHOLES they had been the poor family living in a trailer i just described and they jerked me around so i had entitled a post "fucking trailer trash" would you have felt the need to decry the bias i had so blatantly broadcasted on here?
let me explain something else to you. life is like a shit sandwhich. the more bread you have the less shit you eat. so don't sit here and feed me about how you're defending the underprivelged upperclasses.
when i was growing up i went to school with rich fucking assholes and then came home to where all my neighbors were trailer trash assholes. people of different social status act differently. a child can figure that out. your statements lead me to believe one of two things about you.
either:
a) you don't know what it's like to have upper class shitheads be an asshole to you.
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b) you think it's perfectly fine for the upper classes to walk all over people.
i mean, wil didn't incite us to overthrough the government, he just called some upperclass dipshits "rich fucking assholes". they are nowhere near the vulnerable position of say, blacks.
People don't mind it when bad things are being said about some one who is Rich because they didn't earn it or just got it by exploiting others.
there are a lot of people who are rich and didn't earn it. people who earned their money are "nouveau riche". people who were born into wealth are "old money". people who are rich and have earned it probably say much worse things than "rich fucking assholes", because the old money people (who were just born into it) look down their condescending noses at them. think george bush sr vs h ross perot or bill gaits vs charles windsor prince of wales. old money gets treated better than new money for doing less work in many situations. so take your pseudo-liberal bullshit and shove it up your ass.
thats if your family makes for than $75k per year according to the democratic tax proposals
jesus, your a dipshit. firstly, the democrats don't control shit right now, so anyone raising taxes will be republicans.
$75k is upper middle class, and the middle class will always eat it. both democrats and republicans will always cut the taxes of corporations so they will get election donations from them.
pretty much anyone who's really wealthy in america is connected to the corporate side of this, so that means tax hikes for the middle class. republican, democrat, green, libertarian, anyone else who gets into power. they'll all have different justifications for it, but it will be the same actions. the republicans reasoning is that they are stimulating the economy. the democrats claim the middle class is wealthy. that's just the bullshit posturing covering up their asses. this will happen your whole life. someone has to pay the bill.
if you respond again, make sure and tell us if you or someone else is/was/is going to pay for your college tuition. |
Ken said at 9:07 PM 02-17-2003:
if you respond again, make sure and tell us if you or someone else is/was/is going to pay for your college tuition.
I am paying for college via loans. My family could pay for it but rather have me work ( later) to pay for the education, I was upset with this at first but now that I'm about done I see the wisdom. Oh and they are nouveau riche, having worked themselves up with small business from poor beginnings.
jesus, your a dipshit. firstly, the democrats don't control shit right now, so anyone raising taxes will be republicans.
I never said anything about raising taxes, just simply referring to the statements made by democrats reference to the rich people who would get tax cuts (the rich 75k people). Also please take a civics class even though the democrats don't control the white house, senate or house the republicans do not have near the 60 votes to invoke cloture and will/do need democratic support in everything.
you don't know what it's like to have upper class shitheads be an asshole to you.
I have had rich (the 100 Million kind) and poor (the 0 Dollar kind) be an asshole to me but in neither case did I think that how much they have in the bank cause them to act that way. If some rich guy is an asshole to you and you think of him as a rich asshole, as if rich is the reason, I think your just adding your jealousnes of wealth into the anger.
do you really believe that they would have treated Wil the same way if they had been poor and lived in a trailer? sure they might have been assholes to him, but they would have been assholes in a different way.
I would really love to see a post on all the different types of people and the assholes they are. Rich, poor, white, black, smart, dumb, red haired, dark haired, etc. I'm sure your insight to this will be informative. Oh and by the way do you think if the people rude to Wil had been poor he would have said, "Poor Fucking Assholes"?
life is like a shit sandwich. the more bread you have the less shit you eat. so don't sit here and feed me about how you're defending the underprivelged upperclasses.
I'm not defending anyone. The upperclasses don't need my defense, they have high priced lawyers. What I am doing is looking at what people say through eyes that are not mindlessly accepting as most. BTW, per that "shit sandwich" comment, if I was a really carrying person I would say something like I feel sorry that you have had such a bad life you could think that way but on the other hand ... |
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| angele [email] said at 10:04 PM 02-17-2003:
Hoo boy! I did not realize how much holier you are than I, Ken.
Just get over it. I think everyone on killoggs but you has realized that Wil never generalized that people are assholes because they were rich. These people in this story are rich fucking assholes because they seemed to feel licensed to be rude to Wil just because of their social standing.
Let me give you a brief but somewhat relevant history of mine. I come from wealth and priveledge. I was a full on fucking Debutante replete with the expensive-ass white dress that probably cost as much as your college tuition that I wore for one night. Actually I had a few of them because I was presented in more than one ball. In high society circles, I encountered numerous people who were assholes. These people placed heavy value on their social standing and would often shit upon those that they viewed as beneath them to assert their social positions. In other words, these people would go out of their way to make anyone (a waitress, a non-white, a person who didn't belong to the country club or drive a lexus) feel two-feet tall.
These social constructs are not unlike what happens in Junior High.
Now, I rejected all that shit, moved up to Adelphi, Md, and became a bus driver. I am financially independent and boy, I'm damn burly if I don't say so myself. I live at the fucking Dirtfarm. Now, I am regularly subjected to the predjudices of rich fucking assholes. After working in a hoity toity esablishment in DC, I've encountered many people who feel the need to insult me, express their disdain, etc. in condescending ways because they percieved me as someone insignificantly low class compared to them. These are Rich Fucking Assholes. Granted, they are the same type of asshole as the poverty stricken lady throwing a nasty hissy fit at McDonald's because the cashier forgot to put mayonaise on her hamburger. However, Rich Fucking Assholes aren't just mean, their really condescending.
Just do us all a favor and admit that it is valid to call someone a rich fucking asshole. They exist as their own species, apart from poor, and middle class fucking assholes. |
Ken said at 10:47 PM 02-17-2003:
These people in this story are rich fucking assholes because they seemed to feel licensed to be rude to Wil just because of their social standing.
Which is it money or social standing? Maybe they are just assholes?
expensive-ass white dress that probably cost as much as your college tuition
Now that's condescending! Maybe your house anyway.
wealth and privilege...People of wealth and privilege don't drive a lexus.
These people placed heavy value on their social standing
People always measure themselves against others. Money is an often a standard. If money is not an issue a social ranking fills in. It happens everywhere: Horse Power of a Car, Grades, SAT score, Greenness of Grass, Tomatoes in the Garden, anything. I'm sure at the Tomato-off the person who always gets the blue ribbon may seem like a condescending asshole to the person who is 4th place.
Just do us all a favor and admit that it is valid to call someone a rich fucking asshole. They exist as their own species, apart from poor, and middle class fucking assholes.
WTF does valid mean in this context? It's not illegal. My point is simple this: **** Fucking Asshole where **** is an adjective would be objectionable to most people. Possible **** are Fat, Poor, Black, Muslim, German, Japanese, Handicap, any adjective to describe a person. Would anyone here mind this sentence, "I live in the middle of a bunch of Fucking Layed-Off Assholes"? Or this one, "I live in the middle of a bunch of Fucking Muslim Assholes"? |
uradumbass said at 11:30 PM 02-17-2003:
hey retard! quit being such an atagonistic fukstick. you dont have a head for a reason. i do have a head. i am just chosing not to use it so i can be more on the level with you, you plebian ass wipe. why dont you give an example of someone who has a high social position but mid-level wealth. hmm. ghandi? i am sure there are lots of israelites who think they live in the middle of a bunch of Muslim Fucking Assholes. why dont you stop worrying about being so damn pc and write in your own livejournal. please do this so we wont have to keep posting with a bunch of stupid fucking assholes. |
Ken said at 11:49 PM 02-17-2003:
why dont you give an example of someone who has a high social position but mid-level wealth
why should I? I said Rich people don't measure each other by money so they create an new system to do it. Their social system. If you don't like it then ignore it.
i am sure there are lots of israelites who think they live in the middle of a bunch of Muslim Fucking Assholes
So are they assholes because they are assholes or because they are Muslim?
i do have a head. i am just chosing not to use it so i can be more on the level with you, you plebian ass wipe
Please, that sentence doesn't negate that your argument is a vulgar rant.
stop worrying about being so damn pc
The PC lingo is use to show the converse of the statment about the rich.
From the reply one thing is true, people hate the rich. It's to bad you know people used to aspire to do well. So if any of you win the lotto, what kind of assholes will you be? Personally if I own I'd enjoy driving in my Lexus in the rain and splashing people on the sidewalk.
Get a job whiners. I need someone to cut my grass. Oh yes I'm a rich asshole!!! |
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| angele [email] said at 12:40 AM 02-18-2003:
Ha! I'm not a self-hating rich person. Never have been. In fact I fucking love me a bunch of rich people so long as they are not assholes. I'll say this for one last time. Slowly for you. Your argument does not even make sense because we never equated all rich people with being assholes. Some people are assholes who happen to be rich. That makes them RICH ASSHOLES! Get it? Ahhh. You're a lost cause. I refuse to ever respond to you again. |
bradley said at 3:32 PM 02-18-2003:
Brandon, why do you fake retirement? |
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| angele [email] said at 4:23 PM 02-18-2003:
That wasn't Branson. |
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| milky [email] said at 4:26 PM 02-18-2003:
him either.
Angele, how bad is the snow right now? |
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| kiche [email] said at 4:38 PM 02-18-2003:
the sun is out in nyc. |
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| angele [email] said at 4:55 PM 02-18-2003:
The snow is slowly melting. The sun is shining brightly here, too. It reflects beautifully on the snow. |
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| angele [email] said at 5:21 PM 02-18-2003:
Wow. I could have made that a haiku.
bright white reflecting
amplifying rays of sun
the snow is melting |
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| angele [email] said at 5:21 PM 02-18-2003:
Get this girl a life! |
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| josh [email] said at 12:57 PM 02-20-2003:
Oh yes I'm a rich asshole!!!
A rich asshole who needs student loans to pay for college? Unlikely. |
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| kara [email] said at 1:07 PM 02-20-2003:
Rich Fucking Assholes has several adjectives in it. There are rich fucking assholes, there are poor white trash, there are bitchass hos... it's just a number of adjectives thrown together to create a better description.
Just because you say "she's a dumb blonde" doesnt mean all blondes are dumb, it means that this particular person falls into that category.
Rich Assholes exist.
Dumb Blondes exist.
Poor White Trash exists.
Ignorant Blacks exist.
Racist Southerns exist. |
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| kiche [email] said at 10:49 AM 02-18-2003:
I am paying for college via loans. My family could pay for it but rather have me work ( later) to pay for the education, I was upset with this at first but now that I'm about done I see the wisdom.
if what you're saying is really true, you're parents are assholes, and you are a fool. if they really aren't going to help you pay off your tuition and you went to a good school then you are looking at a debt the equivalent of a house mortage with no present prospects for paying it off.
you or your parents will have a change of mind after you graduate.
I have had rich (the 100 Million kind) and poor (the 0 Dollar kind) be an asshole to me but in neither case did I think that how much they have in the bank cause them to act that way.
so you don't think that poor assholes are different than rich assholes?
i site this statement as further proof that you are a fool.
If some rich guy is an asshole to you and you think of him as a rich asshole, as if rich is the reason, I think your just adding your jealousnes of wealth into the anger.
hey, so if i'm jealous of the rich asshole (which may even be the case), how do you |
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