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brianbibbly
The Official FREAK OUT election watch post

Lets do this, fuckers.

I'm freaking out. Are you?

Discuss.

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[ posted by brianbibbly at 11/02/2004 07:55:20 PM ]
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ed [email] said at 7:58 PM 11-02-2004:
Kerry in a landslide.

(You go, Randi!)
josh [email] said at 8:02 PM 11-02-2004:
cnn says kerry is ahead 77 to 66
josh [email] said at 8:05 PM 11-02-2004:
courtney [email] said at 8:06 PM 11-02-2004:
Drudge Report
josh [email] said at 8:07 PM 11-02-2004:
I posit that we should post killoggs-stored images of the map all night.... that way we can look back at how it changes...
loren [email] said at 8:19 PM 11-02-2004:
CBS is saying
108 Bush
77 Kerry
brianbibbly [email] said at 8:20 PM 11-02-2004:
brianbibbly: Bushy bushy bushy! Come out and plaaaaaaaay!
emking5281: haha
emking5281: you think Kerry can pull it off?
brianbibbly: i hope so. I have been working on the Articles of Succession for the Grand Confederate States of the South if he doesn't.
emking5281: haha
brianbibbly: we're making another run at it
emking5281: I dont think Texas will sign that one
emking5281: just a wild guess, though
brianbibbly: then we will float off into the gulf without them
emking5281: ha
brianbibbly: after we set off the charges placed around the borders
loren [email] said at 8:23 PM 11-02-2004:
It should be illegal to project anything before all polls are closed.
    Wade said at 8:58 PM 11-02-2004:
    That is absolutely true. They didn't learn anything last time apparently.
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      loren [email] said at 9:05 PM 11-02-2004:
      Haha... the CNN guys were just talking about how they fucked that up last time. This year they aren't projecting until a state has closed it's polled. I say they shouldn't until ALL polls are closed.
        Wade said at 9:12 PM 11-02-2004:
        Again, I agree. I think the effect can be disconcerting to prospective voters 1 time zone away, and for sure it can adversely affect voters three time zones away. I haven't watched CNN because I don't want to hear all that tripe, but it looks like they have projected some states before closing of the polls on the map link that was posted. I don't know, maybe those polls close early.
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courtney [email] said at 8:24 PM 11-02-2004:
julie [email] said at 8:29 PM 11-02-2004:
Freaking out? You know I am.
brandon [email] said at 8:31 PM 11-02-2004:
77 Kerry, 60 Bush with no important states reporting yet.

I predict that Bush will transform into a pumpkin at midnight, a pumpkin with a skull carved into it. Kerry will transform into a Mapplethorpe picture and then, through a montage inspired by the AH HA! he will step from the panel and begin to skull-fuck said pumpkin - regardless of who wins.

Brian's charges will go off prematurely, and the Federal states and the Confederate states will immediately begin to argue about mineral and fishing rights in the new 12 mile wide coastal waters.

Also, cats and dogs, living together. Mass hysteria.
craig [email] said at 8:31 PM 11-02-2004:
I've been freaking out for months. Hell, I've been freaking out ever since 9/11/2001.
kevin [email] said at 8:33 PM 11-02-2004:
freaking out with YAY as kerry wins more states and the media wonder what happened to the "close" race. ha!
loren [email] said at 8:36 PM 11-02-2004:
check this exit poll page out

Pretty interesting. Especially the By Income table.
    kevin [email] said at 8:41 PM 11-02-2004:
    and the age division too. i'm hoping these are all the new young voters are gonna push kerry over.
brandon [email] said at 8:38 PM 11-02-2004:
Oops, now it's 94 Bush, 70 something Kerry.
loren [email] said at 8:44 PM 11-02-2004:
102 Bush, 77 Kerry
loren [email] said at 9:04 PM 11-02-2004:
CBS: 162 Bush 112 Kerry
Cnn 155 Bush 112 Kerry
loren [email] said at 9:09 PM 11-02-2004:
LMAO. There's a guy in the background on CNN with a t-shirt that says FUCK THIS SHIT. LOL.
brianbibbly [email] said at 9:27 PM 11-02-2004:
Popping my first Miller High Life now. Sound off on what you are drinking.
Julie, I am freaking out.
loren [email] said at 9:28 PM 11-02-2004:
FthisS.jpg
brianbibbly [email] said at 9:49 PM 11-02-2004:
Is this not looking good for Kerry or is it just me. I can't do this. Somebody come have sex with me to get my mind off the election.
loren [email] said at 9:57 PM 11-02-2004:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/

check that out.
His servers are under attack too.
josh [email] said at 10:03 PM 11-02-2004:
looks like that ballot initiative is losing in CO... bad news for Kerry.
amanda [email] said at 10:08 PM 11-02-2004:
I'm scared, Killoggs. Please hold my hand.
brandonA [email] said at 10:12 PM 11-02-2004:
shit first bad news so far is no Arkansas. I thought there might be an upset there
josh [email] said at 10:30 PM 11-02-2004:
hahaha new hampshire right now is shown to be for bush... but by like 1000 votes...

NADER HAS 1800.

Man, that guy... he is going to be the most unpopular guy ever if he makes the dems lose again!
josh [email] said at 10:35 PM 11-02-2004:
looks like kerry is getting slammed in florida... which means he loses, i would guess.
    brandonA [email] said at 10:48 PM 11-02-2004:
    yep.

    he needs fl, oh, and either mi, or a combo of mn,nm,hi, and nh.

    this looks really, really bad

    I'd move if there were really good options in the world to go to.
brianbibbly [email] said at 10:45 PM 11-02-2004:
This vote is starting to tank for Kerry.

I have my tuxedo on. I have my glass of champagne. I'm resting on my deck chair, waiting for the cold ocean to swallow me up.
    amanda [email] said at 10:47 PM 11-02-2004:
    The locusts and killer monkeys will get you before the oceans ever get the chance.
      abby [email] said at 10:56 PM 11-02-2004:
      i'd like to think of the monkeys and locust swarms as scavengers, feasting apon what furious poseidon has left ebhind, clinging to life atop a two-story mcdonalds.

      either way, i am resigned to my sadness, guys.
        abby [email] said at 10:59 PM 11-02-2004:
        i mean in the mainland united states at least. but shit, alaska will probably be alright for a while
        brianbibbly [email] said at 10:59 PM 11-02-2004:
        I am savoring my last piece of pizza guys because it will be the last thing I ever enjoy if Bush wins this election.
josh [email] said at 10:56 PM 11-02-2004:
Kerry is projected to take PA
josh [email] said at 10:58 PM 11-02-2004:
looks like its all gonna come down to ohio and florida, and kerry isn't looking good there.
josh [email] said at 11:01 PM 11-02-2004:
197 bush - 188 kerry
kevin [email] said at 11:03 PM 11-02-2004:
GIVE US OHIO!
josh [email] said at 11:03 PM 11-02-2004:
kerry is ahead in new hampsire...
brandon [email] said at 11:08 PM 11-02-2004:
Kerry is going to lose. Proving, in the world's most expensive popularity test that he is less popular than Gore was.

What a sad, sad night. Brian, when all the results are in, can I come over to your house and we'll depress the mine detonator's plunger together like in that scene in Aliens, only without Aliens and I won't call you an asshole?
    josh [email] said at 11:12 PM 11-02-2004:
    i think he will be more popular numbers wise, if not percentage wise. voter turnout is way up this year.
      brianbibbly [email] said at 11:23 PM 11-02-2004:
      Who cares if he doesn't WIN Josh? Who cares?
        josh [email] said at 12:47 AM 11-03-2004:
        good point... but it would maybe push again for change in the electoral college... doubtful though.

        electoral college change would make the democrats more powerful and we have a republican senate and house.
          josh [email] said at 12:01 PM 11-03-2004:
          looks like i was wrong about the electoral college change making the dems more powerful! i was assumming it would end up like last year, with kerry getting the popular vote.
    brianbibbly [email] said at 11:22 PM 11-02-2004:
    Yes. I can't muster anything else right now.
brandonA [email] said at 11:16 PM 11-02-2004:
in what is further signs of the deplorable state of our union, every gay marriage ban has passed, excepting OR (still holding out hope for the sanity of Portland to overcome).

OR already has a law, now they're trying to enshrine it constitutionally...
brandonA [email] said at 11:23 PM 11-02-2004:
A tie is possible, too:

Kerry takes OH, MI (leaning to him), MN (leaning), IA (leaning), NH (his) + NM (less than likely)

loses all else.
anotherben [email] said at 11:33 PM 11-02-2004:
im not freaking out.
josh [email] said at 11:41 PM 11-02-2004:
im not freaking out. kerry would be, at most, a few percent better a president than bush... so really, why freak out?
    loren [email] said at 11:42 PM 11-02-2004:
    are you fucking kidding me?
      kevin [email] said at 11:45 PM 11-02-2004:
      bush appointing supreme court judges. fuck! that is scary.
      josh [email] said at 11:49 PM 11-02-2004:
      No.
        josh [email] said at 11:53 PM 11-02-2004:
        I think there is a very minute difference between the two parties at this point. Neither of them fits my value system or politics. Both sides espouse things I strongly disagree with. I wish we had a system that was more 3rd (and 4th and 5th, etc) party friendly. That's why I voted Nader last time.

        The only major difference I see between the two that would upset me would be the Supreme Court appointments.
          brandonA [email] said at 12:01 AM 11-03-2004:
          I hate beating dead horses, but a short list:
          stem cell research
          abortion rights
          gay marriage/ civil union rights
          the entrenchment of fundamentalist "values"
          unilateral foreign policy
          rife incompetence

          john ashcroft

          centralization of power in the white house.

          potentially FOUR supreme court justices of his choosing - where old bush chose an incompetent, sycophantic boob, young bush will have no problem appointing forcefully god-fearing judges.

          cheney, rumsfeld, and rice: self aggrandizing monkeys all.

          the end of enlightenment values in general, the reemergence of faith based policy over reason (something I thought was a given for modern society).
            josh [email] said at 12:10 AM 11-03-2004:
            a lot of those topics i don't agree with you on.
              brandonA [email] said at 12:14 AM 11-03-2004:
              agree that they're something we want/don't want, or agree that they're a given with bush?
                josh [email] said at 12:17 AM 11-03-2004:
                a mixture.

                i dont agree with your view on some of them.

                and i dont agree that some of them will be at all affected by who is president.
            josh [email] said at 12:14 AM 11-03-2004:
            dont get me wrong, i think kerry would be better than bush... just not enough better to make a huge difference.

            remember that the senate and house are still going to be republican no matter who wins the presidency, so most of the items you point out will happen the way they are gonna happen either way.
              brandonA [email] said at 12:18 AM 11-03-2004:
              but...
              this is the short list of what we're facing after four first term years.

              what is in store in a nothing-to-lose second term?

              and congress is still pretty split. overriding a veto takes more than they've got...
                josh [email] said at 12:22 AM 11-03-2004:
                there is no line item veto anymore. i really don't want to have the senate and the house are at political war with the president... i wouldn't mind if there WAS a line-item veto, but it's gone.
              brandonA [email] said at 12:22 AM 11-03-2004:
              and I agree with you that any positive gains from kerry would be likely negligible at best.

              I just see so many overwhelming negatives with bush...

              my penultimate worst thing is that the fucker doesn't read. the checkout person at the supermarket has to do a little reading - WHY NOT THE PRESIDENT???
                josh [email] said at 12:25 AM 11-03-2004:
                i think things are definitely going to be worse with bush, but i dont think they will be worse enough to move away.

                kerry will keep us in iraq, not do anything to stop outsourcing, still pander to big companies, etc...

                the faith thing is annoying. the supreme court thing is annoying.

                the main reason i dont want bush is simply that i think its bad to reward people for fucking up... but that doesnt mean i dont think kerry would fuck up much less.
              Art said at 12:23 AM 11-03-2004:
              that's not true. the president sets the tone of the nation, he always has. More importantly, the president has veto power over the house and senate, and the republicans do not have enough votes to override a (potential) democratic presidential veto.

              furthermore, the following issues BrandonA mentions are exclusively in the control of the president, either constitutionally or thru presidential edict:

              stem cell research - the present ban was laid down exclusively by the pres.

              abortion rights - only the pres can appoint supreme court justices

              entrenchment of fundamentalist "values" - this is in the realm of the presidents 'bully pulpit'

              unilateral foreign policy - the president has set foreign policy tone currently in place

              john ashcroft - a presidential appointment

              centralization of power in the white house - presidential (executive branch) reaching for more power

              potentially FOUR supreme court justices of his choosing - where old bush chose an incompetent, sycophantic boob, young bush will have no problem appointing forcefully god-fearing judges. - presidential right exclusively to appoint justices

              Who is in the White House makes all the difference.
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                josh [email] said at 12:27 AM 11-03-2004:
                and again there are at least 3 of those issues where i dont agree with brandon's (and your) stance.
                  Art said at 12:31 AM 11-03-2004:
                  My point is to refute your statement: ...no matter who wins the presidency, so most of the items you point out will happen the way they are gonna happen either way.

                  not to take sides on those particular issues.

                  go to bed. you said its all over...
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                brandon [email] said at 3:08 AM 11-03-2004:
                Stem Cell Research sticks in my craw, this is of course a band on federal monies funding it, and not a ban on private sector funding of stem-cell research.

                Supreme Court Justices: I'm really worried that Bush II will appoint a majority that, upon review, overturns Roe v. Wade. I don't know how possible this is, but, all sorts of pundits yell about it, and thus I chicken little. With Republican houses, there's no telling who could get shooed in.

                The fundamentalist values portion is annoying, but, not crucial. Even Clinton went to a Baptist church.

                I like the unilateralism, it's just, as Josh mentioned, he fucked up. I seem to remember Josh at one point agreeing or arguing that, in Iraq, we had projected our power in the WRONG FUCKING place. There's a reason that we backed the Iraqis against the Iranians in the 80s. The Iranians are fucking scary. Iraqis were and are secular, western leaning. Iranians. FUCCCK. And now, those guys have nukes. Wait for a post-election, Israeli pre-emptive airstrike on those new facilities. Let's just hope that the Iranians don't have a delivery system up yet for any WMDs they have already produced. This is not to mention Syria, North Korea, The Saudi's, the fun-times gang in Afghanistan, etc. I don' t want a push over President or U.S., but I do want a President who kills the right people because his family isn't up to it's jewels with Saudi money.

                John Ashcroft was beginning to be a nuisance, watch for him to jump ship with Condi, Powell and Macy Gray.

                The White house has become extremely powerful in the past 50 years. I honestly don't think that Bush has shored up more power, except in diffuse way through the extra powers granted to agencies reporting to the White House through the Patriot Act - however, in most cases, congressional power of review was established in the Patriot Acts, which ultimately holds the White House and those agencies accountable for their actions.
                  loren [email] said at 3:21 AM 11-03-2004:
                  Word. Iran is next, and the Supreme Court is the real scary shit here.
                    brandon [email] said at 3:24 AM 11-03-2004:
                    It's almost like his policy is to allow these states to get worse weapons, so they can go in and flog them more.

                    The supreme court thing just scares the hell out of me in ways I can't express.
                  art said at 9:37 AM 11-03-2004:
                  John Ashcroft was beginning to be a nuisance, watch for him to jump ship with Condi, Powell and Macy Gray./

                  good point. I bet other cabinet memebers jump ship too.

                  I don't think Cheney is going to survive the term either, not with his health the way it is. Four years is a long time for a man with a bum heart
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                    art said at 9:39 AM 11-03-2004:
                    doh! damn tags!!!
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                    brandon [email] said at 3:21 AM 11-04-2004:
                    By a nuisance I meant more like, a PR embarrassment to the administration. I think you'll see them replaced by younger and, if you can believe it, more hawkish cheerleaders, since he no longer has to make across the aisle concessions within the cabinet.
                  brandonA [email] said at 10:25 AM 11-03-2004:
                  when 'fundamentalist values' means supporting policy (see stem-cells, abstinence-only education) that is 100% in line with the ultra-fundamentalists and rejecting what is not, while rejecting reason, studies, and statistics, then it becomes more than an annoyance. i doubt clinton's church had the apocalyptic bent of the people bush kowtows too.

                  for shame, apparently we sell a book in the grand canyon gift shop now called 'A different view' that describes how god scooped the thing out of the ground with his hand.

                  And Iraq is still likely to go Islamic. We've set things up for it to potentially be just as scary.

                  Bush came on with a weak congress, who have only become weaker. with them and the supreme court under his belt, we are creeping towards autocracy.
                  kiche [email] said at 10:37 AM 11-03-2004:
                  I seem to remember Josh at one point agreeing or arguing that, in Iraq, we had projected our power in the WRONG FUCKING place.

                  damn straight.
    brandonA [email] said at 11:45 PM 11-02-2004:
    let me count the ways...
loren [email] said at 11:42 PM 11-02-2004:
Florida is scary.
josh [email] said at 11:43 PM 11-02-2004:
97% of florida is in - bush will take it, thus bush wins...
everyone go to sleep. or play GTA:SA, like I'm gonna do!
    brandonA [email] said at 11:50 PM 11-02-2004:
    almost too soon!

    i'm not saying i buy this but:
    FL is Bushes
    NH, OR, WA, NV, MI, MN, WI are all Kerry leaning right now.

    A rally in OH (looking unlikely) would seal it.
kevin [email] said at 11:52 PM 11-02-2004:
looks like kerry must have ohio.
    Cleveland said at 12:06 AM 11-03-2004:
    We have not yet spoken. When we do, Kerry will have what he needs
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