while mike f (boston), scott (sants clara), and craig & shera (hollywood) were here i saw my first professional baseball game. the mariners beat the white sox. safeco field is pretty impressive, and right next to the place where i watched the kingdome implode right after i moved here. we also went to the roq la rue and saw a dan clowes and chris ware show. i also had my first dim sum ever. and the most recent in a long line of excellent parties.
we also made rubbings from the graves of bruce and brandon lee. mary, i'm ready to trade for the poe you mentioned. anyone else got one they'd like to trade? i can work on getting out to the markers for jimmi hendrix and kurt cobain eventually...
mary said at 8:13 PM 05-25-2001: We could have Killoggs mud-wrestling, where everyone would fight to defend the honor of their new adopted hometowns. You'd have to go live in the city of whoever won.
shelly said at 8:45 PM 05-25-2001: gelatin is kind of gross though. mud would be more ecologically sound.
and good for the pores! as long as you don't get any parasites.
mary said at 8:48 PM 05-25-2001: I always forget about how icky gelatin is, i.e. what it's made from. There's a Jewish grocery near my house that sells kosher, vegan gummy bears.
shelly said at 9:26 PM 05-25-2001: oh my god! vegan gummy bears? what is the company name?
i know you can make gelatin from things other than horses, like seaweed. but most of the stuff you buy, in the US at least, seems to be the icky stuff...
i LOVED gummy candies and i thought they were gone from me forever, or at least would make me feel guilty afterward. mmmmm, gummmmy.
mary said at 9:47 PM 05-25-2001: healthy-eating.com sells them, as does harmonyfoods.com. You can sometimes find the Harmony foods ones at the store. And if you don't mind honey or beeswax, there are plenty of other companies that make them too. I think even Haribo does now.
josh [ url ] said at 1:26 AM 05-26-2001: Gelatin is pretty gross. When I first heard about how they made it (that ans sugar), I decided there must be people from the beef industry out there figuring out how to get animal products into everything.
"No, you see, paper treated with bone meal is thicker and more white!"
Arnie said at 4:27 PM 05-26-2001: In my hardcore vegan days, I could never really find out the whole truth about sugar. I've read several diffrent things, but never anything convincing enough for me. What did you find, and where?
josh said at 4:34 PM 05-26-2001: I have heard they use bones to filter the impurities in sugar. But Andy says that's the old-fashioned way and no one really does it any more... Just like they don't use horses for glue anymore.
mary said at 4:48 PM 05-26-2001: Please somebody find out if this is true. My boyfriend, aka "the Food Nazi" insists that anything with refined sugar isn't vegan. Personally, I don't sweat it.
josh said at 5:03 PM 05-26-2001: Almost all cane sugar refineries require the use of a specific filter to decolorise the sugar and absorb inorganic material from it. This whitening process occurs towards the end of the sugar refining procedure. The filter may be either bone char, granulated carbon, or an ion exchange system. The granular carbon has a wood or coal base, and the ion exchange does not require the use of any animal products (2).
Bones from cows are the only type used to make bone char. According to the Sugar Association and several large sugar producers, all of the cows have died of "natural causes" and do not come from the U.S. meat industry. Bone char cannot be produced or bought in the United States (3).
Bone char is derived from the bones of cattle from Afghanistan, Argentina, India and Pakistan. The sun-bleached bones are bought by Scottish, Brazilian, and Egyptian marketers, who sell them to the U.S. sugar industry after the bones are first used by the gelatin industry (4).
Bone is heated to an extremely high temperature, which results in a physical change in the bones composition. The bone becomes pure carbon before it is used in a refinery.
Refined sugar does not contain any bone particles and is therefore kosher certified. The bone char simply removes impurities from the sugar, but does not become a part of the sugar.
Individual pieces of bone char, like granular carbon, can be used for several years. They must be continuously washed to remove the sugar deposits. Companies that use bone char claim that the char is more economically feasible and efficient than other types of filters (4).
Many cane refineries use bone char. Domino, the largest sugar manufacturer, uses bone char in the filtration process. The cane refineries of Savannah Foods, the second largest sugar manufacturer, also use bone char. California and Hawaiian Sugar employs bone char filters in addition to granular carbon and ion exchange filters. All these companies use the bone char in the refining process of brown sugar, powdered sugar (sugar mixed with corn starch) and white sugar.
mary said at 5:25 PM 05-26-2001: He tries not to. Of course it's impossible to avoid it completely.
The funny thing is that I'm the one who influenced him to stop eating meat, and he's waayy more strict about it than I am. I still eat small amounts of meat and seafood at family meals and when I go out to eat for special dinners. And most times in restaurants, I just eat vegetarian instead of vegan. James is a lot more disciplined than I am.
josh said at 8:34 PM 05-26-2001: I like those green beans you get at Cracker Barrel and Piccadilly, that have the meat in them. They taste much better than regular ol green beans.
