max [email] said at 10:05 PM 08-13-2006: I am totally serious here. 30 minutes worth of research, and 30 minutes worth of cutting and trying, and I made one. I can open my house door. I don't have the cajones to go to my neighbors house and try it. Pix to follow.
neilbert said at 1:54 AM 08-14-2006: We got locked out of our house a few years ago and called the locksmith. He showed up with an auto-picker and had the door open in five seconds. This bump-keying thing has been around for a while, it's not new and it's not as easy as it seems. Yes, you can make a bump key for just about any lock, if you have a blank that will fit the lock, but there are other devices that do the same thing. The paranoia comes in that "anyone" can make a "master" key for any lock, which simply is not true.
Most new houses come equipped standard with security systems that have to be shut off regardless of whether the door is locked or not.
Honestly, in this high-tech day and age I don't feel safe with just door locks. I look at locks as just a "passive" barrier, a first line defense. The second line is a security system. The final line is a Shotgun with Sabot rounds.
max [email] said at 3:01 AM 08-14-2006: You don't need a blank. I made mine from an obsolete key, a dremel, and a hand file. Didn't take me long at all.
myriam [email] said at 8:27 AM 08-14-2006: Most new houses come equipped standard with security systems that have to be shut off regardless of whether the door is locked or not.
neilbert said at 5:18 AM 08-14-2006: truth is, the technology to beat your standard "off the shelf" consumer locks has been around for decades, let alone "bumping" the locks. I can only assume that locks in the future will have to be literally "hacked" to break, but for now we have magnetic cylender locks like the ones from http://www.abloy.com/ that are unbumpable and unpickable. Of course the prices are unbelievable. :)
josh [email] said at 10:54 AM 08-14-2006: if you are paranoid about this get a second door lock that is a combination lock. they make combination deadbolts. no keygun or bump key can beat a combination lock.
as far as cars go, new cars by almost ever manufacturer use RFID keys- the starter will quite simply not engage unless it gets the right response from an RFID chip. this can, of course be beaten but it's not a matter of simply having a bump key or keygun or anything like that
brandonA [email] said at 11:52 PM 08-14-2006: I don't lock my door half the time. If somebody really wants to steal my shit, they're going to do it, no matter how good the locks are. It would take a thick steel box of a house with no windows for the locks to actually matter.
brandonA [email] said at 12:54 AM 08-15-2006: I've never thought that mattered since the word in the policy is 'theft', not burglary - and there are an infinite number of scenarios which should qualify where there is no marked damage. Lockpicking and door jimmying are easy enough skills to pick up after all, so it's pretty likely that there are a good number of 'clean' thefts that occur.
I'll verify with my girlfriend's insurance industry parents to be sure.
Also, I know my policy covers stolen suitcases while on vacation, so if I nothing else, I could just take a trip - never mind why I'm bringing my PCs, television, and game consoles along...
myriam [email] said at 9:33 AM 08-15-2006: No. This happened to Meredith. I checked up on it for myself, too. You have to have all windows closed and locked, all doors closed and locked, doors to common spaces inside the house (like basement) closed and locked.
woody [email] said at 10:51 AM 08-15-2006: I'm thinking they would at least want a huge premium from you.
"Hi would you insure my car? I like to keep it parked in downtown Detroit with the windows rolled down and the key in the ignition so I never forget where it is."
God [ url ] said at 3:17 PM 03-04-2008: The future will be in Chinese. Most of you people need to not learn Chinese for the future. You people can learn any language you want to learn.
chrisx [email] said at 4:56 PM 03-04-2008: Hey God, you are not real.
On the topic at hand, I always get a laugh at the world (and myself) for all the worry about locks and how many we put on our doors when often (as my whole neighborhood) there is a very large window that you can smash with minimal effort. YOU ARE NOT SAFE. I am into elaborate death-traps and hope to one day be home when someone breaks in so I can blow them inn half with my Mossberg.
rick [email] said at 5:04 PM 03-04-2008: I wish I could remember the Charles Bronson film in which he built a kind of giant mouse-trap which wounded some street punk who tried to break into someone's apartment.
