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 | milky [email] said at 5:33 AM 03-16-2002: And I know I'm not perfect, and I may have offended some people, but DAMMIT...Don't you guys have any GODDAMN RESPECT? |
 | zack [email] said at 8:08 AM 03-16-2002: Huh? I guess I missed something inbetween 3pm yesterday & now. |
 | Bendependent [email] said at 8:43 AM 03-16-2002: I'm sorry to hear about your dead kitty trauma. Death is always a surreal and awkward thing no matter whose it is because it is a wakeup call as to how fragile life is. Death isn't a bad thing though. It's all in the way you look at it. I think Chicken John put it best one night after I drove him back to his warehouse after the Circus Rediculous movie played one night in San Francisco. He asked me where I got my van from and I told him that I had gotten it with inheritance money from my grandparents. He sat for a second and then said "Yeah... your grandparents die, and then your parents die, and then all your fucking friends die." I'm sure he didn't mean for it to be a philosophical statement, but that's really all you need to know about death. You can then either live in fear of it and try to keep yourself and everything you love away from it, or you can accept it as it is. Indoor / Outdoor... What's the difference? Once someone is dead, they are dead. All that matters is their life and how it affects you.
Smile while you still have teeth. I'll bet you can smile bigger and longer than a middle finger can stand up any day...and on that note, here's a comic redrawn and scanned from one I drew a few years ago that's been buried in a notebook somewhere:
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xmx said at 8:55 AM 03-16-2002: i'm a little confused about why you didn't say something yesterday to me when we were talking on IM practically throughout the day, but instead had to make another hate post?
people are entitled to their opinions. maybe my timing was bad in supporting mine, that i'll admit and i am pretty regretful about it, but i would have and will said/say the same things to anyone else. |
 | Bendependent [email] said at 9:09 AM 03-16-2002: Rotten little comic. I hope you don't take it the wrong way. Hopefully you won't. I posted it hoping you would get a laugh out of it. I'm crossing my fingers hoping you do and it cheers you up. Maybe I shouldn't have posted it though. I'm sorry if you take it the wrong way. It isn't my intention to make matters worse... |
 | Bendependent [email] said at 9:15 AM 03-16-2002: Geez. I also hope you don't take it as an illustration of my above point. That would be even worse. Hmmmm. Maybe I should have saved the comic for another day. I apologize in advance... |
 | Bendependent [email] said at 9:28 AM 03-16-2002: grrrr. i feel bad now. I just need to go to bed. I'm sure I'll wake up to the turmoil I've accidentally caused later today... Maybe I should have posted this comic instead...
http://www.killoggs.com/getdata.php?image_id=443
I need to learn to stay away from serious matters... |
 | milky [email] said at 11:57 AM 03-16-2002: Look, y'all, I'm fine. Don't worry about it. ALL your comics made me laugh Ben, even the dead cat one. Something about the X's on the eyes.
Meredith, although I saw the initial post, I didn't follow the argument. I was looking online for a job. Honestly, even though I do post a bunch and respond, it's not my life, you know...and some things I just don't participate in. That's fine. You all can do whatever the fuck you guys want to, because honestly, I didn't think in the slightest that any words from me would stop you. Tell your boyfriend I'd like to talk to him about a job related deal. I listed him as a ref. And tell him WE ALL KNOW HE HATES RELIGION. IT IS NOT WORTH THE SPACE ANYMORE. Everyone else jokes every now and then, but he's wasted so much space here with his religious issues. He needs therapy. |
 | josh [email] said at 12:45 PM 03-16-2002: Sorry we fucked your shit up.
"Killoggs is not a warm and happy place." |
 | brandon [email] said at 1:19 PM 03-16-2002: That's the wonderful thing about cyberspace - you can always make more. Josh, I'll send you a buck and a quarter for all the space that I've wasted discussing Christianity's giant cock and balls. For in my father's house there are many (f)phalluses! Come, ye brethren suffer the children to come unto them. For it is my will. And the will of these slobbering, balding, educated men of the cloth who presently sit at the ready with their hands shoved down their robes. Speaking of which, there was an apologist on Nightline the other night who was trying to discuss the molestations not as a question of crime, but of "wholeness." "Wholeness," he said, "has the same root as Holiness." - maybe some clerics got hole with a capital "h" mixed up with hole with a lowercase - as in "asshole" but I guess they still imply the same thing, do they not?
I'm not saying that people should do this - I'm not even suggesting that this is the right thing to do. But, religions of all sorts need to be extirpated. It's not time to line up people on the wall, yet. (I'm sure the bullets needed and the hearing-protection devices needed to blot out the penultimate ramblings of those McDonald's style martyrs would be prohibitively expensive) We need cheaper bullets.
First, America needs to start excluding religious persons from public office and state jobs - namely some sort of sacrimental test, like in the times before the Cromwell Revolution in England - only it's negative. We could have some priest, beaten, in chains, with his eyes gouged out, tied to some mill near a landfill renamed Gaza, offer every citizen the body of Christ, which he'll bless everyday, all day, and eat what isn't taken. Those who take the sacrament will be given bus fare home on a bus coated with uranium dust - no more babies for that creep. Those who don't, and who are insulted by the entire affair will be given the chance to stand for public and state jobs, through anonymous testing. They will also be guaranteed the right to breed in a non-religious way without the worry of having their spawn removed from their homes and ripped to shreds without the confirmed witness of 3 persons that religious content was being promulgated within that house. Actually, I would just have all births sent to an early education center - but that might be a little too much for people to swallow. Baptists, and those of Baptist descent - excluding African-American Baptists - would be shot on site, and their bodies mutilated and left to rot for all those biblical creatures to come and pick them's carcasses clean. Can you imagine all the white folk that would suddenly develop an African-American grandfather/mother? Ha, but that wouldn't be enough to save them, no sir.
Jews, Buddhists, and people of Islam would all be spared, given their level of religiosity (to be determined case-by-case) in their case their religion actually has something to do with their culture, which is a pretty compelling argument, for me at least, to allow them their ways. Of course, any proselytizing on their part would be swiftly dealt with. Where religion cannot be suffocated, we should at least burn our its womb to prevent its spread and duplication.
But back to the Christians, in short, it will pay not to be one. Private industry could still employ them, sure, at the risk of losing its tax shelters, subsidies, and any hope of judicial, congressional, and executive influence - any public servant accepting money or an audience with a company that is found at that time to have employed knowingly or unknowingly any Christians will be immediately expulsed and his/her skull crushed on the field behind the national archives. We'll force our children to watch this, to get the point across - futhermore, we'll randomly smash one of their tiny skulls in from time to time, ripping them from the classroom, and executing them quickly while they beg in order to drive home the ephemeral nature of life to the children while also thoroughly convincing them that Christianity is a religion of death cult - which it is - just none of the fucks in it understands just how close to death it should stand.
In the end, many, many people will be dead. Mostly Christians, but a lot of innocents, too. Well, no one is really innocent, are they? The world will be a better place for it, though. We can finally stop quibbling about human rights. (Look, open your markets, or we'll smack you down like we did the Christians faggots of our homeland) and truly come a step closer to creating that "city on the hill" that everyone has been blabbing about for centuries. How about some steak? I'm hungry, everyone have a great- weekend! |
 | milky [email] said at 1:27 PM 03-16-2002: You're delusional and manic. I do have the name of a good doctor to get the professional help you need. I feel sorry for you. Your life has no meaning, besides starting shit. I really hope you get some help. People like you have problems that will fester until your adolescent adulthood is over. I accept the fact that your only legacy as a writer or human being will be killoggs, ultimately.
You talk loud, but ya ain't sayin' nothin'. As usual, you pathetic white child. |
 | brandon [email] said at 2:07 PM 03-16-2002: Someday, when I'm president, I'll thank you for your motivational speeches. Maybe we can consecrate a "Vacuum Sales Day" or a "12 Step Day". Go fuck yourself. |
 | milky [email] said at 2:15 PM 03-16-2002: Have fun in playland, BIGOT! |
 | milky [email] said at 2:17 PM 03-16-2002: btw-- I'm glad when you break Meredith's heart or she leaves you, whichever, you'll be stuck with those DUMBASS BARCODE TATS ON YOUR WRISTS! WAY TO GO, LOSERS! Maybe I'll post a pic of that shit, it'll be a good conversation piece. |
 | zack [email] said at 2:54 PM 03-16-2002: Fuck you both. You guys suck. |
 | zack [email] said at 2:55 PM 03-16-2002: That was a joke. kind of. |
xmx said at 7:46 PM 03-16-2002: wow. josh, can you take that response away? |
 | milky [email] said at 7:55 PM 03-16-2002: NAH. No takebacks here. |
xmx said at 8:07 PM 03-16-2002: that's a shame. because if i could take things back, let's see, there would be several: 1. that i ever once tried to get past the fact that you seemed like a complete asshole and be nice to you; 2. that i ever tried to be nice to you 3. that i ever confided in you about a particular personal secret you've just revealed, and actually trusted a deadbeat addict/drunk/idiot to be worthy of keeping that secret; 4. that i ever actually thought you were more than a COMPLETE FUCKING ASSHOLE. |
 | milky [email] said at 9:25 PM 03-16-2002: I, as well as many, tire of the rantings of a certain FUCKING SKANK CUNT TRUST FUND BIIIITTTTCCCHHHH!!!!! |
 | brandon [email] said at 11:13 PM 03-16-2002: He fuck face, If I ever see you again, and you're not face down in a gutter. I'm going to kick the living shit out of you, you cracked-out piece of shit. Fuck you? Hey did you mention all the people that you fucking hurt that time that you got a DUI because you were to fucked-up to drive, and yet did? Too bad you didn't fucking crack you're codeine sucking brains and drip them out on the goddamn floor. FUCK YOU! |
milky said at 11:20 PM 03-16-2002: Did I hit a sore spot? Oh, I'm so sorry I picked up my life while you and your woman (money holding daddy won't let her marry) enjoy the sound of your useless angst ridden lives being sucked down the toilet.
Just remember you posted a threat online. You might want to rethink your fantasy of meeting me in person again. All of your posts show a pattern of hate and violence. Hey, you and meredith will get to decide which one of your 'tard kids doesn't get to go to college! |
 | josh [email] said at 12:20 PM 03-17-2002: I think people, everyone, should just let this drop. Let's move on, as Carla says. |
 | josh [email] said at 5:37 PM 03-16-2002: As usual, you pathetic white child.
Huh? What's being white have anything to do with anything? |
 | zack [email] said at 5:42 PM 03-16-2002: Oh josh, you BIGOT!
uhhh...? |
 | evan [email] said at 1:25 PM 03-16-2002: killoggs has never been a sanctuary for a perfect happy world and while josh "screens" people i don't think kindness and sympathy are usually very high on the list of required traits... mostly i think the thing is that since everyone here is "creative, clever, funny, wild and crazy" etc. everyone is trying to out do each other on these levels so they are driven to points they wouldn't ordinarily go to. whatever. the other thing is that killoggs doesn't really belong to anyone other than josh and ben so you can't really get all that pissed when people don't behave how you'd like them to. if you don't want to risk it, don't put personal things up daily for people to pick apart, and when they do don't freak out. if you have a problem with the people on killoggs you can always do what meredith (the one without the x's) did and disappear... im not saying you should, im just saying you should remember that its an option... |
 | brandon [email] said at 1:25 PM 03-16-2002: Sorry about the numerous typo's I was in a hurry. By site, though, I meant "site" as in as they congregate, not "sight" because how can your really tell if someone is Baptist, outside of context, other than their Jesus Cola shirts? Eh, well, I don't know that's a pretty good indication, but hell, sometimes people have been known to wear those things as a joke. If it were me, I'd still shoot them, but oh well. |
NuckleheadEd [ url ] said at 5:28 PM 03-16-2002: Yay! Sinfest! You officially rock. |
Andy said at 2:32 PM 03-16-2002: Posting personal things takes courage. You know why it takes courage? Because there is a chance that you will be ridiculed or made light of or not supported. If it wasn't risky then everyone would do it. Alls I can say, Milky, is live above it.
Go back and read all of the supportive, sympathetic posts. They may be hard to hear over the roar of the self-absorbed, but they are just as real as the insensitive ones. |
 | nathan [email] said at 4:51 AM 03-17-2002: That's a nice point, Andy |
 | josh [email] said at 12:20 PM 03-17-2002: Agreed, very perceptive. |
 | brandon [email] said at 3:24 PM 03-16-2002: Note: This is just for fun, and in no way represents the beliefs of Killoggs or the author
So basically, your cat died cause you left if outside. You ask for sympathy, you get a little, some people argue about how having the cat outside is not a good idea/ or it is, whatever. I throw in something about Jesus being a cocksucker or whatever I said. And you get pissed. Then you post another things about how you can't believe the unbelievably horrible manner in which the death of your cat was handled. Well let's roll out the black-background, again, Josh. You're lucky this site isn't full of run-over animal gifs right now, which hell, I might get around to.
Basically, you don't own this space. There's no guaranteed deference that you deserve. People have filled this space with all sorts of irrevenant and irrelevant pictures from time to time within the context of completely different posts. If you can't handle it, leave.
The tattoo's are goofy, cliched, silly, embarassing, whatever. I wouldn't trade them for the world. And it's not like we were stuffing them in our pockets when we saw the Dirtfarm people. The only one who turned his nose up at us was he-who-smooches-the-boys-and-yet is not-gay, and who's that guy anyway? Hell, the night that we got them, we were like, "lookit here, look what we got!" ripping off the bandages prematurely and shoving them in people's faces.
But I can understand your frustration. You're in a new place with no job, a girlfriend who rags on you, surrounded by a people you hate, and things that aren't nice to small animals. Texas is not a swell place to live.
As far as "Bigot" goes, whatever. You're an asshole if you can't do the math and reduce from this to reality. Should I preface and amend every post like that with the disclaimer (This is just for fun, and in no way represents the beliefs of Killoggs or the author) God may judge men by there words and thoughts. But men judge other men by their actions, unless of course you want to make the argument that all words are performative and therefore actions. But that would just be letting the deconstructionists win, wouldn't it, Nathan?
Note: This is just for fun, and in no way represents the beliefs of Killoggs or the author |
 | nathan [email] said at 4:39 AM 03-17-2002: Hmmm? I don't know what your angle is here, but oddly enough I was just talking with Mr. Rickles G. about how we'd chase the deconstructionists around with hot pokers like Wittgenstein vs. Popper. But I wouldn't say that having some honor behind one's word is akin to being a deconstuctionist, those tenants of obsfucation and worthlessness. |
 | nathan [email] said at 4:41 AM 03-17-2002: don't learn your spelling from me |
 | josh [email] said at 12:21 PM 03-17-2002: Does Rick get on AIM? Or were you talking to him on the phone or in person. |
 | brandon [email] said at 3:43 PM 03-17-2002: Maybe it was the other Nathan, I was referring to the quote someone put up about "The deconstructionists winning" because Clinton was in power. I haven't read that book yet, but was it early wittgenstein or late wittgenstein who did the hot-poker chasing? |
 | milky [email] said at 3:44 PM 03-16-2002: My girlfriend doesn't rag on me. And I don't hate the people I live around anymore. I just ran into the worst the city had to offer. I've met some really cool people here, recently. So, whatever. |
 | josh [email] said at 5:39 PM 03-16-2002: Let's all just be friends. |
 | zack [email] said at 5:44 PM 03-16-2002: It is to laugh. OH! "WHERE IS THE LOVE??!!" |
 | brandon [email] said at 6:05 PM 03-16-2002: Just friends? You said that what we shared was special, Josh, you said that it was more-than-friends |
 | josh [email] said at 6:10 PM 03-16-2002: Well, yes, you and I are more than friends, of course. |
 | xmeredithx [email] said at 8:12 PM 03-16-2002: we're more than friends, too, right josh? .... right? .... *crickets chirp* |
 | josh [email] said at 12:22 PM 03-17-2002: I've never done the sex to you, though. |
sizemore [ url ] said at 9:09 PM 03-16-2002: If Milky leaves Killoggs do those of us without get to bid for his head? Would I have to get rid of the beard and shave my hair short? |
 | kiche [email] said at 1:38 AM 03-17-2002: not necesarily, but you would have to wear a shirt that says "milk". |
 | kiche [email] said at 1:45 AM 03-17-2002: this has gotten so out of hand. everyone should step back and take in a deep breath.
is any of this crap here worth ending a friendship over? basicaly what i'm hearing here is that you brandon and jeff, who have been friends since college, are going to stop being freinds because of some flippant comments made on a web page?
yes, it is none of my business; but are you going to let a web page be the cause of the end of a freindship. |
 | milky [email] said at 1:48 AM 03-17-2002: My past is off limits. Everyone respects that. Except the two board attention hogs. And one's a pussy who bowed up but can't deliver. |
 | milky [email] said at 1:49 AM 03-17-2002: As usual, I might add. |
 | kiche [email] said at 2:47 AM 03-17-2002: I'm ashamed to say you are my people.
get at the back of the line. |
 | josh [email] said at 12:23 PM 03-17-2002: I agree with Kiche. C'mon guys. Let's all relax a little. |
 | zack [email] said at 3:15 PM 03-17-2002: WHERE IS THE LOVE??! |
 | brandon [email] said at 3:43 PM 03-17-2002: Mr. Boooooojangles! |
Andy said at 7:36 PM 03-17-2002: that's nice. |
 | milky [email] said at 8:34 PM 03-17-2002: Thanks, Ben. |
Shell said at 8:32 AM 03-18-2002: What a birthday, man! | |
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