cecil [email] said at 5:25 PM 01-23-2006: *checking my copy of Moby Dick.
"Squeeze! squeeze! squeeze! all the morning long; I squeezed that sperm till I myself almost melted into it; I squeezed that sperm till a strange sort of insanity came over me; and I found myself unwittingly squeezing my co-laborers' hands in it, mistaking their hands for the gentle globules. Such an abounding, affectionate, friendly, loving feeling did this avocation beget; that at last I was continually squeezing their hands, and looking up into their eyes sentimentally; as much as to say,- Oh! my dear fellow beings, why should we longer cherish any social acerbities, or know the slightest ill-humor or envy! Come; let us squeeze hands all round; nay, let us all squeeze ourselves into each other; let us squeeze ourselves universally into the very milk and sperm of kindness."
I really wish this had been incorporated into the Star Trek version.
dave [email] said at 6:27 PM 01-23-2006: yah wired had a huge writeup about it. they got the actual actor who played checkov to star in it too. it's at some guys barn in upstate connecticut i think. I tried to download one, but it was slow as shit.
brandon [email] said at 12:26 PM 01-24-2006: I couldn't disagree with you more. STII is total schlocky cheese that ties into the original series. It's a scene-chewing revenge tragedy. The Undiscovered Country is a baby-boomer utopian eulogy to JFK that Romanticizes the end of the Cold War. I guess that thematically, that's closer to the original T.V. series. But I like the dirty, threadbare salt-scoured last voyage feel of the WoK better. Plus of all the others, the Voyage Home, the Search for Spock, the Undiscovered Country just has this old-fogey, what are we doing, feel to it.
abby [email] said at 12:25 PM 01-24-2006: this could also be a generational thing, as you guys are five or six or whatever years older than me, i wasn't aware of shit when khan was in theatres. the first trek movies i encountered with UC and generations and shit. star trek tng. i didn't see the original series until much later.
art [email] said at 12:02 PM 01-24-2006: Now that I think about it, FC also had its share of Moby Dick references: And he piled upon the whale's white hump, the sum of all the rage and hate felt by his whole race. If his chest had been a cannon, he would have shot his heart upon it.
abby [email] said at 12:11 PM 01-24-2006: first contact? the one with the drunk mountain dude listening to that old-time rock and roll? get the fuck out of here dude.
geordi with contacts also, that shit just makes me barf.
craig [email] said at 12:25 PM 01-24-2006: Wait, is First Contact the one with the Borg Queen? I like S&M hotties.
I think The Wrath of Khan is the undisputed best Star Trek movie of all time. I read that it was originally going to be titled "The Revenge of Khan" but this idea was dropped upon learning at that time that a new Star Wars movie called "Revenge of the Jedi" was going to be coming out.
I also liked The undiscovered Country. I think after Khan it was number two.
Search for Spok was shitty. Was that the one with the whales? That one was shitty too.
abby [email] said at 12:27 PM 01-24-2006: i thought first contact was hte one where they go back in time and mess with the mind of the guy who invents warp crap.
the borg queen was unbearably lame.
the whales one was a little too modern-day-funny for me, but what do you expect. its got some great quotes that i use almost every day, though.
brandon [email] said at 12:36 PM 01-24-2006: I really don't care for the nextGen movies at all. I was never a fan of Picard or Data - especially Data - they waste entirely too much time contemplating Data's pinocchio-dreams.
art [email] said at 12:28 PM 01-24-2006: What - he should have been listening to punk? I liked it, so there. I liked the Borg scenes, the battles and the feel of that movie.
Geordi is fucked up, although I think that is a problem all futuristic stories have with technology - Why would they not have such and such technology (here, realistic cyber eyeballs) 351 years from now, but they all of a sudden have it 359 years from now?
abby [email] said at 12:31 PM 01-24-2006: no, he shouldn't have been so goofy. it was unwatchable and embarrassing. don't tell me about the classic role of the genius that's misunderstood even by himself or anything, either. it was so shameful i had to look away.
those contacts.. why did they have to look like motherboards.
art [email] said at 12:39 PM 01-24-2006: He was also from Alpha Centuri in the original series - oops!
I'll agree with you about the goofiness - I don't like when they try to force humor into their movies. Deanna Troilet makes me wretch whenever she emotes all over the place (did you know she is ranked third in command in NexGen? whatthefuckisthatabout?) and here they tried to make her funny. In Voyage Home they overplayed McCoy trying to be funny. In Undiscovered Country, it was Chekov (guess who's coming to dinner?) I do wish they would stay more in character
